Pictures of Girlfriend/Wife in Bunkers?

[crshresq911]

Was browsing some stories from the past few years about firefighters being punished for pics of dancers or strippers taken at the firehouse. Got me a thinking?

I understand being punished for this, but what if it's your significant other and she's more than willing? Should you be punished for that, it's not going out to the public....

And to be fair and answer my own question I have taken many many many pics of my wife in & out of my gear as well as with our trucks. She thinks it's fun!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOO
Who here has taken pictures of their wife, girlfriend, or significant other wearing, taking off, or whatever with their bunkers????

How about a risque pic of them with one of your trucks or at your station?

[mohican]

crshresq911: You want me to provide pictures of your girlfriend/wife in bunker gear? :D :eek:

[mrtmom2]

I think you are confused PFD3501!! Would you like me unconfuse you???

[Engine4Member]

I sure would like to see them. Post them for us to see. :D ;) :) :cool:

[mohican]

I think you are confused PFD3501!! Would you like me unconfuse you???

sure!! :D :D :D :eek:

[mrtmom2]

what crshresqu911 wants is for you to post pictures of your girlfriend/wife in bunker gear. And by the way Engine4member i am a FEMALE i was just trying to help soneone out Geez. And if you have a problem with it oh well.Have a Great Day now.

[LT Mick]

Nude, partially nude or photos of someone (male or female) stripping do not belong in the workplace at all. If they are allowed the MANAGEMENT could be guilty of creating or allowing a hostile workplace. Taking those photos in the workplace is even more inappropriate. What you do in private is your business.

[friez139]

Nude, partially nude or photos of someone (male or female) stripping do not belong in the workplace at all. If they are allowed the MANAGEMENT could be guilty of creating or allowing a hostile workplace. Taking those photos in the workplace is even more inappropriate. What you do in private is your business.

If all parties are willing participents, what is the problem with taking a few pics? If these pics offend you then don't look at them.

But I would like for you to expain your responce. How is taking these types of pics creating a hostile work environment?

[mohican]

what crshresqu911 wants is for you to post pictures of your girlfriend/wife in bunker gear. And by the way Engine4member i am a FEMALE i was just trying to help soneone out Geez. And if you have a problem with it oh well.Have a Great Day now.

MRTmom2: This thread languished un answered for almost a month before I helped it along. I certainly understand what crshresq911 was asking for. However, since he started the thread without posting any pics I offered to help him out.

From you're semi heated response, can we assume that you are crshresq911's significant other? Relax, I don't really have any pictures of you in various stages of bunker gear.

LT Mick - I certainly understand your position, although I think it is overly PC. However, a swimsuit calender or a picture of a hottie in bunkers with the top open exposing.....a......nice bikini top is not sexual harassment, nor is it hostile.......unless you don't like women........Where you cross the line is when you ask a coworker to pose like that......or other "leading" comments.
The pictures aren't a big deal, until somebody uptight comes along. Then......

[mrtmom2]

NO he is not!!!!!!!!and if you looked at my other posts you would see where I am from.

[Emtmom]

Taking these kind of pictures at the firehouse is not acceptable behavior. Whether or not both parties are willing. What if someone were to walk in unexpectedly when you are taking them? What if you were to walk in, with your 5 yr old in tow and someone is taking those type of pictures? Take them at home, not the firehouse! As far as pictures hanging up in the firehouse, I'm not the least bit offended by seeing a picture of some half clad woman in bunker pants. HOWEVER, I do see a problem in the fact that many of us DO bring our KIDS to the firehouse. SORRY, guys it's just not appropriate behavior.
Not to mention the fact that here, our firehouses are public property. Not a good thing to rent out your firehouse and have someone walk into a room by accident and see pictures of naked people!!
And yes, we did have pics in our old firehouse, and the only complaint from the women was we wanted to put some up of firemen too! Funny how the guys liked the one of the women, but no way could we put up any of men.
Guess now that I have little kids, I kinda see it from a parental point of view now.
One other thought on this: Why should anyone, male or female walk into a workplace and be considered uptight, because they are not comfortable with this type of picture being displayed? YES, I do consider even a volunteer firehouse a workplace!

[LT Mick]

A hostile workplace is created when any employee has the POTENTIAL to be offended. It is a workplace, and a PUBLIC building. These types of pictures do not belong. It is not just being PC, it is ensuring that all employees are free of harassment, whether real or precieved. The Firehouse is no longer a private mens club.

[mohican]

A hostile workplace is created when any employee has the POTENTIAL to be offended. It is a workplace, and a PUBLIC building. These types of pictures do not belong. It is not just being PC, it is ensuring that all employees are free of harassment, whether real or precieved. The Firehouse is no longer a private mens club.

EMTMOM: I'm not advocating that a FD, paid or vollie be used as a strip club. And I can see people getting upset if they walked into that type of photo shoot. I probably won't bring the wife down to the department anytime soon to wear my bunkers, sans undies. If someone actually gets caught by the general public, ie doing a bikini shot as the cub scouts walk in for a car wash, then I would think the people involved should at least get a Darwin award.

And Mick, I'm gonna call BullShooters on ya. There is a world of difference between hanging a swimsuit calender on the wall and sexually harrassing someone. A person that can't see the difference is typically wound so tight that they would split a department, paid or vollie. The conundrum of modern society is that in the name of tolerance, we have become intolerant.

I don't go around hanging bikini calenders around the station. In the general public area (meeting room, radio room, kitchen) we just hang the standard calenders from all the truck people. If one finds its way into the tool cage in the work bay, well it does.

If a person is so "uptight" that a bikini calender offends, then IMO they are looking for an excuse. That person is the first to cry "wolf" and want treatment different than the rest of the group. After that you have to accomodate someone who suddenly is offended when you say the pledge. And after that the Christmas party has to become the holiday party, at which point the rest of the group gets offended. Then you open yourself up to someone getting bent out of shape because you actually said a prayer at the start of your memorial day service. So then where do you stop?

It stops at the beginning. It starts with telling newbies coming in that while harrassment won't be tolerated, it is a Fire Department, not a convent. Macabre humor, after a harrowing fire or squad run is still an acceptable means of venting. (in the station, only :D )

You have to know where the line in the sand is, and not cross it or let others cross it. However, if your goal is to eliminate "perceived" harrassment, that line in the sand is constantly moving.

This reminds me of a line from Hank Williams, Jr's song "A Country Boy Can Survive": We say grace, and we say "maam", and if you aint into that, we don't give a damn.....

[Emtmom]

EMTMOM: I'm not advocating that a FD, paid or vollie be used as a strip club. And I can see people getting upset if they walked into that type of photo shoot. I probably won't bring the wife down to the department anytime soon to wear my bunkers, sans undies. If someone actually gets caught by the general public, ie doing a bikini shot as the cub scouts walk in for a car wash, then I would think the people involved should at least get a Darwin award.
I never mentioned a strip club, I said those kinds of pictures are not acceptable in a place of business. Either being taken or hanging!

And Mick, I'm gonna call BullShooters on ya. There is a world of difference between hanging a swimsuit calender on the wall and sexually harrassing someone. A person that can't see the difference is typically wound so tight that they would split a department, paid or vollie. The conundrum of modern society is that in the name of tolerance, we have become intolerant.

I don't go around hanging bikini calenders around the station. In the general public area (meeting room, radio room, kitchen) we just hang the standard calenders from all the truck people. If one finds its way into the tool cage in the work bay, well it does.

If a person is so "uptight" that a bikini calender offends, then IMO they are looking for an excuse. That person is the first to cry "wolf" and want treatment different than the rest of the group. After that you have to accomodate someone who suddenly is offended when you say the pledge. And after that the Christmas party has to become the holiday party, at which point the rest of the group gets offended. Then you open yourself up to someone getting bent out of shape because you actually said a prayer at the start of your memorial day service. So then where do you stop?

It stops at the beginning. It starts with telling newbies coming in that while harrassment won't be tolerated, it is a Fire Department, not a convent. Macabre humor, after a harrowing fire or squad run is still an acceptable means of venting. (in the station, only :D )

You have to know where the line in the sand is, and not cross it or let others cross it. However, if your goal is to eliminate "perceived" harrassment, that line in the sand is constantly moving.

This reminds me of a line from Hank Williams, Jr's song "A Country Boy Can Survive": We say grace, and we say "maam", and if you aint into that, we don't give a damn.....
So basically what you're saying is, if a female FF has to go into that tool cage, and she finds that calendar offensive, TOUGH? DEAL, because it's a firehouse? Are you then saying that if the female firefighters want to hang calendars like that of men up it's ok too and the men just have to DEAL?
Now, before you jump me on this let me tell you this: I can tell a raunchy joke along with the best of them, and have actually had several of the guys on my ambulance (all of whom are also FF's) tell me that they like being around me, because they NEVER have to worry about me claiming harrassment. It's not my thing, and hell I'm sure if you asked some of them, they would tell you I could be brought up for it. That's me, I grew up with brothers in a neighborhood full of guys. My brother was on the fire dept. in high school, so I've been around FF's since I was 15. My mother was always yelling at me on the phone once I joined the ambulance because if my trash mouth. LOL My excuse? I'm around firefighters all day.
In case you can't tell from the avatar and the sig, I'm a flirt, and a tease, and I love to do both.
BUT, not all women are like that, and just because one wants to be a firefighter, does not mean she should have to deal with language, jokes, or calendars.
If you want that kind of calendar, hang it in your garage at home. If you worked in an office it wouldn't be tolerated, why should it be in any work place?

[Chips]

I agree that the old pinup that was around when I was a young pup has slipped off in to the history pages.

We have become a society of politctly correct animals.

I like the firehouse dolls calendar and others as much as the other guy and I have a signed copy in my workshop at home.

As far as fire houses as strip clubs does, when I lived in Panama City Florida . One of the small fire houses I would drive by that was out in the wilds of the Florida pan handle had female stripers 3 nights a month and guys once a month ( that was ladies night ) that was there major fund raising.

As far as my station goes there in never a day that does not have a child in the station. Some are older and some are still in diapers. So we are a family group with mouths like most firemen. And fireladies

Now a calander of fire fighters men and ladies in there stations in bunkers or not (just so there clothed) would be a ok thing.

[LT Mick]

PFD3501

There is a difference between sexual harassment and hostile work enviornemnt. Harassment can include a "quid pro quo" situation. "Hey you wanna work here, you gotta give me a BJ". Or unwanted touching. Basically harassment is unwanted sexual advances. Do you know that if an outside sales person hits on one of your employees and you do nothing about it you as the employer are responsible for those actions?

A Hostile work enviornment can be as little as everyone agreeing to give a co-worker "the silent treatment" , or offensive photos. These actions are illegal. They are not political correctness. The Department management is charged by law, and ethics to ensure that neither of these things happen. If they allow them to happen by indifference, agency culture or lack of knowledge they can be sued and or fined heavily. One Pa. bank was sued by a male employee because another gay male employee had a photo of him & his partner kissing on his desk. This non gay employee took offense to "this blatant display of Homosexuality. (Now I opened another can of worms here for all the homophobes out there). I do not know what the outcome was in Court, but I do know that, this particular bank now forbids ANY personal items on employees desks. My sister was a high level manager at this bank. All the other items you mentioned Christmas vs Holiday, prayer or no prayer in a school or public building. These issues are all based on a fantastic first of a kind document called the US CONSTITUTION.

If you are a public employee I would hope that your employer has provided the obligatory "Sexual harassment awareness training class"???? If not they should!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mohican]

Wow Mick, this topic has really drifted :D

We could have another heated arguement on the first amendment (And by the way, there is no separation of church and state anyplace in the 1st amendment or the rest of the constitution, BTW) :D

Lets revisit the "swimsuit" calender issue. If no one is touching or otherwise making advances (wanted or unwanted advances don't have a place at the FD, imo) then whether a swimsuit calender is truly a non issue among the sane.

Lets just say that we provide support to an event at a local beach. In the process, the local newspaper sends someone out to do a PR piece. We (let's use a universal we) get our picture taken with an ambulance and a truck, and there are some beach clad people sitting on the running board, or standing on the deck of the top mount pumper. Maybe we give a few rides around the campground. Of course, everybody buys extra copies of the newspaper, and the article with picture is posted on the bulletin board. Do I then take a crayon or magic marker and put full clothing on people? After all, seeing people in swimwear is hostile :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[LT Mick]

Bill of Rights
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Whether you think it is not addressed is up to you. But the US Supreme Court who by direction form the constitution is directly responsible for interprting the Constitution says it does.

[mohican]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof - is not "separation of church and state"

This has been tested many times in courts, it wasn't until the last 10-12 years that judges have interpreted no establishment of a religion into separation of church and state. It basically started when Clinton appointed minions start making rulings, and has been very unevenly enforced. If there was truly a separation of church and state, Congress couldn't open with prayer. In God we trust would be removed from money. Under God would have to be removed from the pledge, the military could no longer have chaplains of any faith. States would no longer be able to have motto's such as "through God all things are possible". And if the first amendment really meant a separation of church and state, then Michael Neudaw would have been successfull in his attempt to block the president's prayer during his innaugaration speech. To me, throwing recent rulings by the Federal Courts as the correct interpretation of the Constitution is a very intellectually dishonest arguement.

[gerry_58]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof - is not "separation of church and state"

This has been tested many times in courts, it wasn't until the last 10-12 years that judges have interpreted no establishment of a religion into separation of church and state. It basically started when Clinton appointed minions start making rulings, and has been very unevenly enforced. If there was truly a separation of church and state, Congress couldn't open with prayer. In God we trust would be removed from money. Under God would have to be removed from the pledge, the military could no longer have chaplains of any faith. States would no longer be able to have motto's such as "through God all things are possible". And if the first amendment really meant a separation of church and state, then Michael Neudaw would have been successfull in his attempt to block the president's prayer during his innaugaration speech. To me, throwing recent rulings by the Federal Courts as the correct interpretation of the Constitution is a very intellectually dishonest arguement.

IMHO, You are absolutely right-- except that the trend to manipulate the Constitution by liberal judicial activist judges has been going on for more than 10-12 yrs. The Freedom OF Religion is being morphed into Freedom FROM Religion, which is pretty much it's opposite.

[LT Mick]

Gerry 58 you are getting closer. The Supreme Court banned prayer in public schools in 1963, a hell of a lot longer than 10-12 years ago, and Pres. Clinton had nothing to do with it, he was in Jr High then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PFD whether you like it or not the First ammendment does guarantee seperation of Church and State, THANKFULLY. Otherwise I would be forced to endure more church B.S. from bible toting liars like G.Dubya Bush.

[Emtmom]

Lets revisit the "swimsuit" calender issue. If no one is touching or otherwise making advances (wanted or unwanted advances don't have a place at the FD, imo) then whether a swimsuit calender is truly a non issue among the sane.

Lets just say that we provide support to an event at a local beach. In the process, the local newspaper sends someone out to do a PR piece. We (let's use a universal we) get our picture taken with an ambulance and a truck, and there are some beach clad people sitting on the running board, or standing on the deck of the top mount pumper. Maybe we give a few rides around the campground. Of course, everybody buys extra copies of the newspaper, and the article with picture is posted on the bulletin board. Do I then take a crayon or magic marker and put full clothing on people? After all, seeing people in swimwear is hostile :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You're not really going to try and get anyone to believe a newspaper pic from an event is the same as a pin up calendar???? Can we say "reaching for straws???"
The two are VERY different!

[LT Mick]

EMTMOM

AMEN to that one. You put it perfectly.

[Vollies Suck]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof - is not "separation of church and state"

This has been tested many times in courts, it wasn't until the last 10-12 years that judges have interpreted no establishment of a religion into separation of church and state. It basically started when Clinton appointed minions start making rulings, and has been very unevenly enforced. If there was truly a separation of church and state, Congress couldn't open with prayer. In God we trust would be removed from money. Under God would have to be removed from the pledge, the military could no longer have chaplains of any faith. States would no longer be able to have motto's such as "through God all things are possible". And if the first amendment really meant a separation of church and state, then Michael Neudaw would have been successfull in his attempt to block the president's prayer during his innaugaration speech. To me, throwing recent rulings by the Federal Courts as the correct interpretation of the Constitution is a very intellectually dishonest arguement.

I've always sort of thought that the phrase "establishment of religion", as used in the First Amendment, was simply a euphemism for the word "church". You know, like a bank is an "establishment of commerce" or a school is an "establishment of learning". Basically, I think what the Constitution says is that Congress shall make no law regarding a church, synagogue, mosque, etc.; that the Government shall keep its hands off religions.

[gerry_58]

"The Supreme Court banned prayer in public schools in 1963, a hell of a lot longer than 10-12 years ago,"

Prayer in public schools is currently NOT BANNED by the USSC. TEACHER/ADMINISTRATOR LEAD or SANCTIONED prayer in public schools is banned. This is a reasonable and Constitutional compromise-- that has unfortunately been overstepped by many states, in both extremes.

"PFD whether you like it or not the First ammendment does guarantee seperation of Church and State,"

If separation of church and state is a reality, then please explain to me how, I/A/W The Declaration of Independance, our inaliable rights are granted by "The Creator"; and how "In God We Trust" is our official national motto and inscribed on all our currency; how the 10 Commandments are displayed in the USSC chambers; how many, many governmantal bodies at all levels open and/or close with prayer; and so on. What the phrase "separation of church and state" truly means is the the state and the church cannot be the same entity-- meaning there cannot be an official Church of the United States.

"Otherwise I would be forced to endure more church B.S. from bible toting liars like G.Dubya Bush."

The gov't cannot force you to go to or support and religious entity, but if your willing to stand there and listen, the Bible thumpers are free to spout their BS.

[gerry_58]

"I think what the Constitution says is that Congress shall make no law regarding a church, synagogue, mosque, etc.; that the Government shall keep its hands off religions."

I would agree with you if you said Congress shall make no law sanctioning or outlawing a particular church, synagogue, mosque, etc. There are all kinds of laws in respect to religions, and I don't know how you could ever avoid it.

[mohican]

You're not really going to try and get anyone to believe a newspaper pic from an event is the same as a pin up calendar???? Can we say "reaching for straws???"
The two are VERY different!

So where do you draw the line?

There are such things as pre existing conditions, and that is where the difference is, if you care to see it.

If you join, and come in and see something that offends you, but it was there before you joined, then it was put there to make you uncomfortable

I would agree that if I knew you thought it offensive, and then I posted it, it could possibly be considered harassment, if you could prove that I did it to offend you.

I work in a form of recreation industry. If you walk into my place of business you will see not just pictures, but murals of people of all ages in swimwear, including bikini's. If someone were to get a job here, and then claim to be offended, well, that's just tough.

[sasquach]

Can we see the pictures ? PLEASE .

[mohican]

The first amendment, simply means that the goverment can not establish a state religion, or a sect of a religion.

The phrase "separation of church and state" came into being years after the constitution was written, in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danberry Baptists.

You can not take the separation of church and state argument meaning no religion in government seriously when the constition speaks of inalienable rights endowed to us by the Creator. Which means that our rights exist naturally, and are not given to us by the government.

EDIT TO ADD
that was the Declaration that spoke of unalienable rights

[Engine4Member]

what crshresqu911 wants is for you to post pictures of your girlfriend/wife in bunker gear. And by the way Engine4member i am a FEMALE i was just trying to help soneone out Geez. And if you have a problem with it oh well.Have a Great Day now.


Hey I have no problems what so ever. I was just saying that I would like to see the pictures. If they are of the nude type, I really am NOT interested in seeing these. I can always bring my gear in and put my wife in them as see all that I care to see. besides, she has a set of an older set of my turnouts that she wears when we both are out shoveling the snow off our drive way.

If you have posed, then that was your decision to do such. I could care less.


;) :)

[mrtmom2]

Sorry to say I am not into that type of thing just that the one that started this thread must be.

[Quack32]

So where do you draw the line?

There are such things as pre existing conditions, and that is where the difference is, if you care to see it.

If you join, and come in and see something that offends you, but it was there before you joined, then it was put there to make you uncomfortable

I would agree that if I knew you thought it offensive, and then I posted it, it could possibly be considered harassment, if you could prove that I did it to offend you.

I work in a form of recreation industry. If you walk into my place of business you will see not just pictures, but murals of people of all ages in swimwear, including bikini's. If someone were to get a job here, and then claim to be offended, well, that's just tough.

I just hope you're not the on in charge at ANY workplace because I really don't think that a "pin-up" calendar can be "grandfathered" in. Now at what point did the display of half naked women (or men) become so important that it was a necessity in the firehouse? I am the type of person who has never felt offended by anything, but why would you take the chance of possibly making one of your co-workers feel uncomfortable or even getting charged with creating a hostile work environment? If you have an uncontrollable need to have a picture of your naked wife on the pumper or have immediate access to porn at work your issues are way past the "comfort" stage and professional help is needed. Do the normal thing.......take your pics with your picture phone in the car next to the apparatus at a working scene outside your jurisdiction :p

[mohican]

I just hope you're not the on in charge at ANY workplace because I really don't think that a "pin-up" calendar can be "grandfathered" in. Now at what point did the display of half naked women (or men) become so important that it was a necessity in the firehouse? I am the type of person who has never felt offended by anything, but why would you take the chance of possibly making one of your co-workers feel uncomfortable or even getting charged with creating a hostile work environment? If you have an uncontrollable need to have a picture of your naked wife on the pumper or have immediate access to porn at work your issues are way past the "comfort" stage and professional help is needed. Do the normal thing.......take your pics with your picture phone in the car next to the apparatus at a working scene outside your jurisdiction :p

Quack, I think you need to read, then reflect before posting an opinion

I'm not saying I'm in favor of pinups

I'm saying that something pre-existing is not harrassment

I'm also trying to get people to draw a line, and when they have to draw a line I get the "oh, it's ridiculous" type thing.

There is have someone that advocates no personal items because that might offend someone.

I am stating that I find the lengths to which people will go to be offended is absurd.

[sinu8]

I think you are missing the point
I have sat patiently trying not to respond to this one, BUT, after re-reading this entire thread this morning, I just have to ask PFD3501 are you really that STUPID or are you just trying to get a rise out of the other readers? At 39 years of age you can't possibly exsist in main stream America.

[LT Mick]

Yahoo

Someone else who thinks this guy is not all there, or just trying to aggitate. This guy can not understand:

1. The difference between sexual harassment and a hostile work place.
2. That present administrations are not responsible for past administrations actions or lack of actions.
3. There is no such thing as accepting past actions as OK because they were pre-existing. DUH,
If it is wrong it is wrong! This is the 21st century, not the 1950s where "good ol' boys, and Boys will be boys attitude is accepted.

[mohican]

I think you are missing the point
I have sat patiently trying not to respond to this one, BUT, after re-reading this entire thread this morning, I just have to ask PFD3501 are you really that STUPID or are you just trying to get a rise out of the other readers? At 39 years of age you can't possibly exsist in main stream America.

Stupid, I think not
Main Stream? maybe not
And I must have gotten a rise out of you !! :D :D

But it's apparent that the attitudes and mores inland are different than on the coasts.

In the name of "tolerance" our society has become much less tolerant.

When pointed out, those of you on the PC-police force cry foul. Not from anything thought out, it's just ingrained.

Maybe Granpa was right when he said "Son, you got the East Coast, and you got the West Coast, and you got America in between."

[Hopewell]

Wow, has this thread gotten way off the original topic.

I think we can all agree what is acceptable to the public, both in displays of printed materials, and in behavior in the workplace. In this case, I'm including volunteer organizations into the term "workplace."

No, we do not want the local scout troops, or a little old lady stopping in for directions, to be subjected to bawdy cheesecake/beefcake calendars out in the open, or boudoir pics taped up on someone's gear rack for the world to see. That's not just a PC issue... it's a matter of professionalism. No one is advocating turning a firehouse into a borderline bordello or some reinvention of Joe's Garage, circa 1957.

It should be noted though that most likely, some of the appeal of having someone we find attractive pose seductively in uniform or turnouts is that it is not something we generally associate with that particular image. The break with the norm is what is stimulating, which is what makes say, the professor/teacher, boss/secretary, librarian, nurse, police officer, or firefighter fantasies not uncommon. Someone doing something seductive in a role not generally associated with arousal, makes the fantasy.

In my opinion, if people want to willingly take risque pictures in bunker gear or on apparatus privately, and it is intended solely for private use, I don't see a problem with it. I would think late at night at many fire houses, one might reasonably expect privacy. The expectation of privacy though, should be the main concern. There will certainly be exceptions in some organizations where privacy is not feasable, such as career stations, volunteer live-in stations, organizations with co-ed living quarters, etc. I think you all get my point about what is acceptable for two people in their private lives, and what is appropriate for conduct or display in a public fire station, particularly at times of day where visitors or groups of members can be expected to be about.

Just as a semi-related post-script, I have a picture of my girlfriend, wearing a tennis sweater, short pleated skirt, garters, thigh-highs, and heels, that I keep tucked inside my helmet. I think it's sexy, I feel closer to her when I'm working, and nobody sees it but me.

[LT Mick]

Hopewell

I agree that we did stray a little from the original topic of discussion.
But it was fun yanking PFD351's chain a little.

I also made a comment in one of my replies that I was hoping to get some exciting discussion on. I made a comment something like " and all you homophobes" or something close to it. I was really hoping to get a rise out of someone jsut to start another heated debate.

I like playing devil's advocate.
PFD351 I do not believe you are stupid, just in my opinion ill-informed. It was fun talking with you.

Do you wanna do it again sometime?

Oh by the way PFD, are you saying that the majority of americans (those living along both coasts) are un-american, or somehow of lesser quality than you, or other mid west people??????

[mohican]

Mick, are you saying this is the end of the thread, and this is your parting shot? Your final salvo across the bows?

As for jerking my chain? I think not.

You remind me of a few people who I'd watch their back, they'd watch mine, and at the station or the restaurant I'd argue with. And as I tell them, of course you are entitled to your opinion. But that is what it is, opinion.

And to answer your question, I know your feelings are hurt, but no, I'm not taking sensativity training

[mohican]

Yahoo

Someone else who thinks this guy is not all there, or just trying to aggitate. This guy can not understand:

1. The difference between sexual harassment and a hostile work place.
2. That present administrations are not responsible for past administrations actions or lack of actions.
3. There is no such thing as accepting past actions as OK because they were pre-existing. DUH,
If it is wrong it is wrong! This is the 21st century, not the 1950s where "good ol' boys, and Boys will be boys attitude is accepted.

Mick - I know the difference between sexual harassment, and a hostile work place

A current administrator will have to deal with actions of previous administrators, whether in the fire service or not

As far as accepting past actions - you have to look at each individual practice and determine it's legality, correctness, and effect on morale

Let me clue you in about harrassment - this is just observation

I'll do this sloooowwwwwly for you..........Keeping up?..........

There is a cut and dried legal standard for actions.......
And then you have gray area's

Someone taking someone to court because of the picture of two guys holding hands-you didn't know the outcome

In some areas, you would find a judge that would look at this as harassment

In other areas, you would find a judge that would berate you for wasting their time on something so silly.......Keeping up Mick? Couple concepts for you to wrap your mind around at once.......

There are things that are absolute, you will find it everywhere, like breaking a kids arm because he/she ticked you off is child abuse, and I have to work very hard sometimes not to return the favor when I run on those cases. But spanking is not child abuse. If I have to give my kid a swat, that's understandable. I go one county over and give the kid a swat, I may end up defending myself in a child abuse case.

There are a lot of things that are defined as a community standard - which, when looking at original writings of our forefathers is what was intended.

I've travelled across this great country - to the eastern side of Ca, never been clear to the Left coast. There are a lot of great people anyplace in the United States, even on the coasts :D

It's just that as I've stated, there are different attitudes toward just about anything as you move across the country - you seem so quick to discount ideas outside of your train of thought (Lionel?)

If you are still having trouble with this, I have a visual aid for you

:D :D :D

http://hannity.com/img/usa_election_map.jpg

[Emtmom]

Firefighters Disciplined for Racy Photos

1 minute ago Strange News - AP



TAMPA, Fla. - A firefighter was fired and four others were suspended without pay after an investigation found they were involved in a photo shoot involving two women posing nude on a red fire engine inside a station.



Fire Capt. Al Suarez, 44, was fired 10 days before his 20th anniversary with Tampa Fire Rescue after he was accused of organizing the photo shoot. Snapshots of the two women, who were strippers at a Tampa nude club, have appeared on Internet Web sites.


A six-week investigation by city officials and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement found that Suarez also tried to cover up his actions by asking witnesses in the investigation to lie and not cooperate.


Driver engineer Stephen Johnson, acting captain on the day of the shoot, was suspended one month for allowing the photo shoot to continue. Firefighter Michael Layton was suspended three weeks, while firefighters Michael Berwald and Michael Campbell were suspended two weeks.


According to the investigation, Suarez met one of the women through Berwald, who also worked part time at Thee Dollhouse nude club in Tampa.


Suarez was off duty Oct. 17 and met the women, identified only as Jamie and Heather, at a restaurant. They followed him to Station 21, where several firefighters taped garbage bags over the windows, the investigation found.


The women began the shoot partially clothed, but they were soon wearing only high heels.


Investigators interviewed 23 witnesses, including Suarez, who eventually came clean, officials said. Before the investigation, Suarez had earned praise in his nearly 20 years with the department, being described by supervisors as a "professional in all aspects" and a "natural leader."


Suarez was a former head of the firefighters union and is a supporter of Mayor Pam Iorio.


Iorio on Wednesday called the punishment of everyone involved "appropriate" and said "the worst part of it ... was the attempt to cover it up."

[mohican]

We all pretty much agreed that this type of behavior is off limits

There is an extreme difference between bringing a stripper into a firehouse, and having a significant other have her/his picture taken in bunkers.

like I said, if you do it when the cub scout troop is coming, that's plain stupid

Like Hopewell said, someone coming in off hours, no one around, taking a picture with your wife/girlfriend for private viewing is completely different. And if you think it will draw a lot of flack if it gets out, think maybe not.

Some irony here. On this thread, it seems like this has been viewed as a hick, good ole boy, volunteer thing. In reality, it has been large city "professional" firefighters doing this.

For someone to do and leaving department ID on the photo's, and then letting them get on the internet, these buffoons deserve a Darwin Award. They have set their department back several years in the PR department and community good will.

[Emtmom]

Does it not make you wonder what the hell these guys are thinking when they do this? First the guys in Calif., now these guys in Fla., looks like they are competing for the darwin! Exactly how do you explain something like this to your wife? ROFL

[mohican]

Does it not make you wonder what the hell these guys are thinking when they do this? First the guys in Calif., now these guys in Fla., looks like they are competing for the darwin! Exactly how do you explain something like this to your wife? ROFL

Honey, you remember when I said I was at Firefighter services? Well, those were held at the Golden Bunny club, and a specially endowed worker there offered to help us with PR pictures at the firehouse...........

Yeah, that'll work :eek: :rolleyes:

[Spunkmier]

Poor Kent Island Vol. Fire Department (MD). Some all-knowing, all-wise pundant with a soapbox (or firehouse coffee table) will probably file a cease and desist order on their fund raising calendar (It's males with cleverly positioned items over their "hot" spots).

Is this any more "unacceptable"?

[Emtmom]

Honey, you remember when I said I was at Firefighter services? Well, those were held at the Golden Bunny club, and a specially endowed worker there offered to help us with PR pictures at the firehouse...........

Yeah, that'll work :eek: :rolleyes:ROFL, That's cute, but no way you'd get that past me!

[Emtmom]

Poor Kent Island Vol. Fire Department (MD). Some all-knowing, all-wise pundant with a soapbox (or firehouse coffee table) will probably file a cease and desist order on their fund raising calendar (It's males with cleverly positioned items over their "hot" spots).

Is this any more "unacceptable"?NO those are NOT acceptable to be taken in the firehouse. Male or female they are not acceptable photos to take at the firehouse.
Speaking from a female point of view, I'd find it much sexier to see a fireman no shirt, bunker pants on, straps on his shoulders, with the clip and buttons undone on the bunker pants. Open just enough to make you wonder IF he's got anything under the bunker pants! Much sexier then naked, or all but naked! But, then I like a little mystery!!

[GregH]

Well, since no one has yet to post a photo....

[Boxalarm104]

well atleast some one grew the balls to put up a pic!

[mohican]

Look at the host site
voyeur web?

looks like someone pulled a pic of a website to post here

[Engine4Member]

well atleast some one grew the balls to put up a pic!


And she grew a set of chestnuts too!!! :D

Not a bad picture. I would bet that she isn't in the fire service, but just put the gear on for the pic!!

[Chips]

She might bee butif she is the turnouts look like the right size

[Boxalarm104]

any one got more photos

[Emtmom]

any one got more photosgo to google or yahoo search, type in naked female firefighters, I'm sure there are alot more pics out there on the net!

[Chips]

I see have seen enough is it ok if i let my eyes in you cleavave a wile longer EMTMOM?

Just kidding.

[Emtmom]

I see have seen enough is it ok if i let my eyes in you cleavave a wile longer EMTMOM?

Just kidding.
Aren't you guys all starting to get just a bit cramped down there? ROFL

[Chips]

I could never get cramped being around you EMT Mom

after no mater how old we get we always need Mom

[Emtmom]

I could never get cramped being around you EMT Mom

after no mater how old we get we always need Mom
What a sweet talker....men talk like that, they want something! ROFL

[Chips]

All I want is a peacefull night and a frend to be there when I need one. And god to be with all when our time comes.

[Engine4Member]

All I want is a peacefull night and a frend to be there when I need one. And god to be with all when our time comes.



Probably wouldn't know what to do with a real woman if he had one. :D

A lot of talk and very little action. :rolleyes:

[Chips]

Maybe not but your sister did just fine

[Engine4Member]

If I had a sister, I may allow her to talk to you. She would be able to do better any how!!


:) :D :rolleyes: :eek:

[Chips]

That was a lame come back

You can do better just try

[Engine4Member]

That was a lame come back

You can do better just try



TRY THIS ONE!!


My sister, if I had one, would never go out with a limp dick like you. If, I had a sister, she would be more interested in a man that has more values and sense that you could ever dream of.

Maybe you have been use to dating your own sister for too long!!!


:eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad:

[Chips]

Well your not being very happy are you.

remeber if you cant take a joke go play with a rubber ball on the interstate.

[mohican]

That was a lame come back

You can do better just try

how about

"Your Mom and your sister both think I'm better in bed than you are!!! :D "

Man, I haven't used that since college

whewww!!

Back to our regular programming

[Chips]

It took you long enough to respond to that you must have burned out the last of the brain cells that you had left after you got lose from the research wing at Fort Detrck.

Any way the village people are looking to get you back in the band. Something about you have there favorite opening.

ps the last time you had some thing furry and warm it was your cat!

[mohican]

It took you long enough to respond to that you must have burned out the last of the brain cells that you had left after you got lose from the research wing at Fort Detrck.

Any way the village people are looking to get you back in the band. Something about you have there favorite opening.

ps the last time you had some thing furry and warm it was your cat!

Do you type with a crayon?

those were not only old, but unfunny

[100dragonslayer]

I thought this was to have pics. of wives/girlfriends on it not 2 little boys argueing back and forth. Show me some women dammit!

[helmet1]

gas anyone posted a pic of ther other half yet, I would love to see just how stupid people are for that

[77 remote]

Bitchies, where are the bitchies?

[mohican]

http://www.americasfemalefirefighters.com/photos/baltimore2004/baltimore2004001.jpg

[77 remote]

At last thank you.

[100dragonslayer]

That was nice but, something more along the lines of the first pic would be nice.(or less)

[Emtmom]

Like I said before do a search for naked female FF's! Geez, can't do a simple search, do you need someone to hold your eyes open while you look too????

[Oldcaptain]

EMTmom....lets see your picture.......it does not have to be nude or risque! ;)

[mohican]

Like I said before do a search for naked female FF's! Geez, can't do a simple search, do you need someone to hold your eyes open while you look too????

I think they are trying to work up the nerve to ask you to post your pic :D

[Oldcaptain]

besides...... that is not my eyeballs.....but...excuse the drool! Laughing!

[Oldcaptain]

I think they are trying to work up the nerve to ask you to post your pic I just did!

[Emtmom]

besides...... that is not my eyeballs.....but...excuse the drool! Laughing!
That's ok, Droll wipes off! ROFL

GEEZ, you all know that curiosity killed the cat right???

http://profiles.yahoo.com/emtmomemt

[Engine4Member]

Yum on the picture. You better watch out, as a big bad wolf may come along in the woods and get you. :)

I could be that wolf!!! ;) :D :) :p

[Emtmom]

Yum on the picture. You better watch out, as a big bad wolf may come along in the woods and get you. :)

I could be that wolf!!! ;) :D :) :p
I aint scared! :D

[Engine4Member]

I aint scared! :D


I am not scared either!!! :D



As the wolf said, "My you look good enough to eat"!



;) :p

[Emtmom]

I am not scared either!!! :D



As the wolf said, "My you look good enough to eat"!



;) :pOK, so where are the pics of you??????????????????????? ;)

[FirePix1075]

yes, good enough to eat, I agree....

[Emtmom]

yes, good enough to eat, I agree....OOOO 2 for 1 special sounds like a threesome! :eek:

[FirePix1075]

hmm.. would u enjoy? :)

looks like there's enough stacked for 2 to share :)

:D

[Emtmom]

hmm.. would u enjoy? :)

looks like there's enough stacked for 2 to share :)

:DI aint going there! :p

[FirePix1075]

Boo...... :mad:

[Emtmom]

Boo...... :mad:Threesomes are not all that great! :eek:

[FirePix1075]

guess it all depends on who u are with in the 3some...

[Emtmom]

guess it all depends on who u are with in the 3some...
Who is there doesn't matter, 1 on 1 is always better!

[LostOnScene]

I am not scared either!!! :D



As the wolf said, "My you look good enough to eat"!



;) :p

did we look at the same pic? eh.... :confused:

[RESQ]

i agree its not acceptable. get your own business then see what/how you think!

[RESQ]

i agree its not acceptable. get your own business then see what/how you think! ;)

[Engine4Member]

did we look at the same pic? eh.... :confused:


:D The photo I look at of her was in the woods, with one shoulder strap down. Sure look good to me to eat up, YUMMY!!! :D :D ;)

[Engine4Member]

OOOO 2 for 1 special sounds like a threesome! :eek:


No three way Babe. Just you and I. I don't need any help.



;) :D

[Emtmom]

:D The photo I look at of her was in the woods, with one shoulder strap down. Sure look good to me to eat up, YUMMY!!! :D :D ;)
Thank you hon! ;)

[EMT/FF99]

did we look at the same pic? eh.... :confused:It all depends on the person's preferences of the photo(s) of a person.

[LostOnScene]

:D The photo I look at of her was in the woods, with one shoulder strap down. Sure look good to me to eat up, YUMMY!!! :D :D ;)

u must have a large appetite... :eek:

[Emtmom]

u must have a large appetite... :eek:don't like it don't look! This must be the reason you can't get along with the females on TWD!

[EMT/FF99]

u must have a large appetite... :eek:As said before: Emt/FF99: It all depends on the person's preferences of the photo(s) of a person.

YOU have the option while on your comp to NOT look at any photos of anyone or anything correct? then quit your bitching about it & stop looking at it!!!! Better yet, while using 3 fingers at the same time, hit these 3 buttons: Ctrl, Alt & Delete, either that or change your pad!!!!

[LostOnScene]

don't like it don't look! This must be the reason you can't get along with the females on TWD!

i looked cuz i wanted to see what all the chatter was about...

and i do get along w/ females i just have this problem w/ typein what i think...and most people don't like it. doesn't bother me if ppl don't like what i type.

[Emtmom]

i looked cuz i wanted to see what all the chatter was about...

and i do get along w/ females i just have this problem w/ typein what i think...and most people don't like it. doesn't bother me if ppl don't like what i type.
Maybe if you didn't spend your time insulting people you wouldn't have that problem!

[LostOnScene]

Maybe if you didn't spend your time insulting people you wouldn't have that problem!

its just my opinion...

[EMT/FF99]

its just my opinion...Opinions are like A$$holes,, Everyone has one :rolleyes:

[LostOnScene]

Opinions are like A$$holes,, Everyone has one :rolleyes:

tis true...just means everyone is an asshole but i prefer the term bitch for myself :D

[EMT/FF99]

tis true...just means everyone is an asshole but i prefer the term bitch for myself :DIf you fit the criteria then, guess you get the Bitch of the year award,,however,,you are coming to real close in being runner-up with my Ex-wife for the Century Award. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D :eek:

If my memory serves correctly also,, you seemed to have a problem a while back with another female here on TWD & pertaining to voting on photos of what certain women looked like.

[LostOnScene]

If you fit the criteria then, guess you get the Bitch of the year award,,however,,you are coming to real close in being runner-up with my Ex-wife for the Century Award. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D :eek:

she can have the bitch of the century award...she has more experience in bein a bitch...i'm still in bitch training lol

[SIXand17]

Re: the pic in the profile:

MC Hammer called - he said he want's those bibs and the one strap on/one down style back.

[opencab]

its just my opinion...

Opinions are like assholes every1 has one!!!!

[LostOnScene]

Opinions are like assholes every1 has one!!!!

thanks for repeating that...i didn't catch it the 1st time it was said to me on this thread...

SIXand17...nice!

[opencab]

thanks for repeating that...i didn't catch it the 1st time it was said to me on this thread...

SIXand17...nice!

Your welcome just thought I would remind you!!

Have a nice day!!! :p

[ChiTown]

;) is A Very Wise Woman

[silenteyes]

I had to read what all the talk was about. I clicked on the link, and looked at the pic. Then I reread the posts. And I have to agree with Lost On Scene.. where we all looking at the same pic? Its good ya got all this self-confidence and self-esteem and stuff, but mmm no. Makes me kinda sick to think about actually..

Sixand17, haha, better it's MC Hammers clothes than Baby Gap... And besides in the commercial, Hammer's shit gets repo'ed... Someone gotta buy it and carry on the 'trend' that went out when he fell off the charts..

[Emtmom]

WOW, nice to see so many who think they are better than others!

[Ghetto3FF]

If my memory serves me correctly here. It seems "LostonScene" was also "lost" awhile back when a thread was going on pertaining to what she (LostonScene) & Fightn5 looked like. If I also remember correctly, "LostonScene" was seriously ticked off @ some point & started with her NEGATIVE comments about Fightn5 & what she looked like!!! So I see this has started again, only this time with another Female here.

Lost, ? here for you sunshine. Are you by chance running your mouth, because of maybe "your" sexual preference & just don't like what EmtMom looks like? Simply because she doesnt fit "your standards" or level of sexual preference? So far for what I have seen within this thread of YOUR comments, it seems to be heading in that general "licking" direction.

Every person has their own level of standards as to what a person looks like in "their" eyes & this is what they go by each & everyday in life, not just another's opinion (such as yours). Maybe, someone can hunt the old thread down & bring some light back here for you to help see alittle better.

Hell since We dont know what YOU look like, why dont YOU post what you look like, before casting your mouth about others,,, then maybe all can compare the 2 of you together.

Or maybe, you are just jealous that other Women here are speaking on TWD & others are "listening & responding" back to them, more than you?

[silenteyes]

Never said I was better than anyone else.. Just my opinion...


GhettoFF - I know Lost's sexual preference isn't leaning towards "licking" preference.. She just has rather strong opinions on people. If she doesn't like something she sees, she says something.. So don't accuse people of being something they aren't...

[Ghetto3FF]

Never said I was better than anyone else.. Just my opinion...


GhettoFF - I know Lost's sexual preference isn't leaning towards "licking" preference.. She just has rather strong opinions on people. If she doesn't like something she sees, she says something.. So don't accuse people of being something they aren't...
Then lets see her photo, so OTHERS may pass the same judgement or different judgement. "Never cast stones, while living in a glass house"

[LostOnScene]

hey ghetto...

silenteyes and i go way back, and also knows me better than anyone on here.

if u would like to see my pic...its in my yahoo profile. the rest is up to you to get to my pic.

oh and there is a glass house at work..it didn't break when hit the side of it...must have been plexy glass (sp??) hehe

[Ghetto3FF]

hey ghetto...

silenteyes and i go way back, and also knows me better than anyone on here.

if u would like to see my pic...its in my yahoo profile. the rest is up to you to get to my pic.

oh and there is a glass house at work..it didn't break when hit the side of it...must have been plexy glass (sp??) hehe
Sorry, but I am NOT going to comment on the Photos, other than I have SEEN that Face somewhere else before!!!! :eek: :D :rolleyes:

As for the "Glass House at work" then you must have NOT thrown whatever too hard at it LOL! For you & Silent Eyes, well again, sometime seems a little wierd here, Silent signs out, then you sign in, post & sign back out, then Silent signs back in,,,by chance the same person?? No wonder how Silent "knows" you too well!!!!! :confused: :eek: :D ;) :rolleyes: :p

[silenteyes]

Then lets see her photo, so OTHERS may pass the same judgement or different judgement. "Never cast stones, while living in a glass house"

Clean your own doorstoop there hon, before cleaning the neighbors'.

[silenteyes]

Sorry, but I am NOT going to comment on the Photos, other than I have SEEN that Face somewhere else before!!!! :eek: :D :rolleyes:

As for the "Glass House at work" then you must have NOT thrown whatever too hard at it LOL! For you & Silent Eyes, well again, sometime seems a little wierd here, Silent signs out, then you sign in, post & sign back out, then Silent signs back in,,,by chance the same person?? No wonder how Silent "knows" you too well!!!!! :confused: :eek: :D ;) :rolleyes: :p


I am at school, so unlike you, I cannot sit online all day long.. I sign in and out all day long.. Lost and I have known each other for like ever and a day..

[Ghetto3FF]

I am at school, so unlike you, I cannot sit online all day long.. I sign in and out all day long.. Lost and I have known each other for like ever and a day..
Sorry, but you dont know me or what I do. I may be @ work this very moment & the Internet COULD be a part of MY WORK,,or even I may work 2nd or 3rd shift & am on line @ certain times of the day, just checking email, TWd & so forth. See (again) you "try" & cast judgement againist people you dont know here on TWD (Or maybe even know from your FD LOL, you dont know who I am,,but I MAY know who you are!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Main point is that you, Lost & Chi all jump in here after how many posts have been made pertaining to what was turning into a fairly questionable good thread & start your kid games by attacking one person. Why couldnt people like yourself just stay with the thread's intent in the first place?
Trust me,, its not that hard of a question to answer in reality.

Now, lets get this thread back on track from the what the original author was asking in the first place!!!!!!!!!!

Emtmom,, You need to get a photo of yourself posted here in Bunkergear to make a few people happy!!!! ROFL!!!!

[Emtmom]

Emtmom,, You need to get a photo of yourself posted here in Bunkergear to make a few people happy!!!! ROFL!!!!NOT! ROFL

[emtfff129057]

What someone looks like. I have always been told that it is what is on the inside that makes a person who they are. I did not click on the link, so I have no idea what Mom looks like nor do I really care. If EMTMOM is happy with the way she looks then that is great. She has a high respect for herself and I applaude her and give her a standing ovation. Most do not think the way that she does about themselves. She has a huge heart, would do what she could for a perfect stranger and does not look back. I believe that that right there is the most important thing about a person.

People who have a high opinion of what they see should not be in this profession. I sure do hope that you hold that tongue while on scene and see a person who is offending you JUST because of the way that they look. Your tongue could get your company into some serious litigations.

Now, I don't post picks of myself. One because, I don't want to. Two because, I am always behind the camera rather infront of it. But I do have to say that Dave has one posted of me on the firefighter homering page next to my husband who is one of the moderaters there. Go ahead, look and pass judgement. You are not going to hurt my feelings. You are just going to continue to look like an opinion. :) :D

[LostOnScene]

Main point is that you, Lost & Chi all jump in here after how many posts have been made pertaining to what was turning into a fairly questionable good thread & start your kid games by attacking one person. Why couldnt people like yourself just stay with the thread's intent in the first place?
Trust me,, its not that hard of a question to answer in reality.


hey, silenteyes and i are NOT the same person even though we are close friends and at times almost like sisters...we went to high school together. you think too much for your own good...don't hurt ur delicate brain.

heres another question for your prescious brain...how come i get crucified for anything that isn't related to a fire topic yet other ppl on here can chat all day w/ NOTHING that pertains to anything related to fire and everyone is kewl w/ it? does that make sence? nope!

i never asked silenteyes or chitown to say a word on this thread that was their own business NOT mine.

and i didnt attack anyone...read my 1st few posts on this thread, i guess u may have missed them. i wanted to see what all the hype was about...i came, i saw, i was not impressed at all. from all the hype i was expecting something totally different. as have others who have pm'ed me and said the same thing about the hype. i just had the guts to post something before anyone else. i stated my opinion which i am entitled to and you don't have to like it. i am an opinionated person and i speak my mind.


and just where have u seen my face?

Now, lets get this thread back on track from the what the original author was asking in the first place!!!!!!!!!!

should have said that a page or so before i even posted on this thread.

[Rumorville]

Lost, quit while you are ahead....... you obviously are not optimistic about other female FF/EMT's.....you are digging yourself a hole.....and I am sure EMTmom is a really cool person, who cares if YOU don't like her looks......unless you are a lesbian!!!

[LostOnScene]

Lost, quit while you are ahead....... you obviously are not optimistic about other female FF/EMT's.....you are digging yourself a hole.....and I am sure EMTmom is a really cool person, who cares if YOU don't like her looks......unless you are a lesbian!!!

how does my sexual preference get pulled into this?! obviously if i don't play well w/ females here...why would i want to sleep w/ one? guys are much more fun ;)

[Rumorville]

I was just pointing out the fact that, a female commenting on another female, as in the remark you about EMTmom, such concern warrants the conception that you are judgemental about how other females look....

[LostOnScene]

I was just pointing out the fact that, a female commenting on another female, as in the remark you about EMTmom, such concern warrants the conception that you are judgemental about how other females look....

hmm most females i know comment on how ppl look...i thought it was a general trait.

or omg!!!! am i just a superficial bitch?!

nah i'm just a bitch.

u should get together w/ ghetto u 2 can chat and read too far into things.

oh and emtmom...don't stoop so low as to PM ppl to give me a bad rep. esp when i have connections to the ppl u pm. tsk tsk.

[Rumorville]

GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Why do you think peeps pick on u???? Because you let them..........don't ask people to stop bashing you , if you are going to do the same thing to them (that's all I'm saying)....
You know, 15 years ago when I joined the FH we had a saying (actually a couple)...
"If you can't take the heat, get outta the fire house"
and
"If you can't take criticism, don't give any...."
TWD just happens to be a giant stir pot for multiple FD organizations, sit back have fun and fight fire.....not your fellow firemen...... Be safe!

PS-Lost- i don't need to read too far into things, I've just been around the fire department a LOT longer than you, and respect, wisdom and optimism comes with time......

[LostOnScene]

umm was alll of that directed at me?

[Rumorville]

Lost,
Nevermind......you ARE Lost.....
Over your head, below your feet......
If you don't get it, you just don't.....

If you want to continue your drama, there'a a frat house down the street from me, I'm sure they'd love to have a Lost girl like you.......(just poking fun, don't get all riled up)

[LostOnScene]

answer me this...

why would i pay any attention to u when ur ident starts w/ roumor?

[Rumorville]

You just did.............................

[Rumorville]

OK, back to the original topic, b/c this is not a thread called "Lost trying to come up with witty statements!"
Go suck a d!@k!!!!
Like, I care about your comments....you obviously like to keep your lips wet and run you mouth alot, I bet a lot of people tell you to shut the hell up!!!!! B/c I would....
Go fight fire and stop ur bitchin'!!

[Emtmom]

oh and emtmom...don't stoop so low as to PM ppl to give me a bad rep. esp when i have connections to the ppl u pm. tsk tsk.I have answered 2 PM's of people telling me not to give you the time of day. Don't recall PMing anyone to ask them for help. If I cared that much, I would answer more of your ramblings!
FYI: I don't even know who Ghetto, Engine4, or Rumorville are!

[LostOnScene]

Go fight fire and stop ur bitchin'!!

i have no interest in fighting fire...i keep myself on the ambul ty very much.

emtmom, if u didn't then why did i get a message that u did?

[Rumorville]

Whatever...................................you read into things too much.........

[Rumorville]

:yawn: !!!!!!

[hockeyguy]

I hear that rumorville is a hot blond. Let's see your pic in some bunker gear. :D

[Rumorville]

U can see the real thing, when I'm running the line in front of you!

[emtfff129057]

And these are the Days of TWD :p

[Ghetto3FF]

hey, silenteyes and i are NOT the same person even though we are close friends and at times almost like sisters...we went to high school together. you think too much for your own good...don't hurt ur delicate brain.

heres another question for your prescious brain...how come i get crucified for anything that isn't related to a fire topic yet other ppl on here can chat all day w/ NOTHING that pertains to anything related to fire and everyone is kewl w/ it? does that make sence? nope!

i never asked silenteyes or chitown to say a word on this thread that was their own business NOT mine.

and i didnt attack anyone...read my 1st few posts on this thread, i guess u may have missed them. i wanted to see what all the hype was about...i came, i saw, i was not impressed at all. from all the hype i was expecting something totally different. as have others who have pm'ed me and said the same thing about the hype. i just had the guts to post something before anyone else. i stated my opinion which i am entitled to and you don't have to like it. i am an opinionated person and i speak my mind.


and just where have u seen my face?



should have said that a page or so before i even posted on this thread.
PLEASE!!!!! before you post anymore here, use Word Pad, Note Pad, Word Perfect 11 or 12, or just use something with SPELLCHECK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

As said before, it seems you & Silenteyes SEEM to be the same person, just quite a bit of the same you both post & so forth. But so be it, guess multiple must work for you then. But what does get me is how you always have a problem with other females here. (IE: a thread pertaining to you, Fightn5 & a few other females last year sometime.) The moment things were switched over to Fightn5 & quite a few had made remarks towards her comments, you got your panties in a roaring bunch & twisted. Now, it done again here. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY FEMALE HERE ON TWD, SO DEAL WITH IT!

Its a Zen Rule & Riddle: If you can apply yourself to the rule & Dont apply the rule. :D

[burning85]

ghetto and everyone else....

from just reading along here it seems as if you all are doing the same thing you are accusing lost of doing....she made her comment of the pic you all jumped on her ...she stated herself it was just her opinion but yet everyone is still berating her!! the girl has a right to fend off the accusations and assumptions!! so in all fairness here no one has any room to post "stone and glass houses" comments to her just because she didnt find the pic appealing. so now the same people bitching about stones and glass houses are holding the stones accusing her of being a lesbian and also being silent eyes!!! and as far as fighting 5th goes- that's old news so dont drag past incidents up and start a new pissing match! so in the spirit of you not looking like a bigger hypocrite why doesnt everyone take their own advice and drop the matter and move on with the thread!!!

[OCNYFireBuff]

"It's all the same....only the names have changed...." :rolleyes: :D

[Rumorville]

:yawn: :sigh: :yawn:

[opencab]

All I'm going to say is this; Lost where is your pic its not up and I know that you and silenteyes are 2 different people! And yes I already know what you look like. Ghetto and Rumorville where are your pics?
And 1 last thing yes I did see emtmom's pic....Have a nice day!!!

[Ghetto3FF]

All I'm going to say is this; Lost where is your pic its not up and I know that you and silenteyes are 2 different people! And yes I already know what you look like. Ghetto and Rumorville where are your pics?
And 1 last thing yes I did see emtmom's pic....Have a nice day!!!
Sorry Open,,but I am a male,,and this thread is for Wife/Girlfriend in Bunker Gear,,I dont think I could qualify!!! LOL

[OCNYFireBuff]

Not for nothing, but it cracks me up how so many of you have such vivid memories of "that other thread", yet you are overlooking the first couple of pages of it, where it was explained why the posting of semi-nude women on TWD is being discouraged. If you want to see what each other looks like that badly, PM the member of choice and ask 'em if they'd be interested in swapping pics with you. Is that really all that hard to do?

[opencab]

Not for nothing, but it cracks me up how so many of you have such vivid memories of "that other thread", yet you are overlooking the first couple of pages of it, where it was explained why the posting of semi-nude women on TWD is being discouraged. If you want to see what each other looks like that badly, PM the member of choice and ask 'em if they'd be interested in swapping pics with you. Is that really all that hard to do?
Are you that stupid or just can't you read the name of the thread! It says IN BUNKER GEAR!!! :eek:

[OCNYFireBuff]

No, I'm not "that stupid" and yes I can read. However, in case you haven't noticed, in the last page or two, the thread has gone waaaay off topic, and we have a number of members looking for one or two others to post their own pic for review. That's what my comments were referring to. Whether or not pics of women in bunker gear would be objectionable is for Phantom to decide. Personally, I wouldn't mind a bit. Would you? :D

[Rumorville]

I'm camera shy..................

[LostOnScene]

Ghetto...i have had 3 hrs of sleep in the past 48 hrs...u want my post to be perfect? too damn bad not happenin. why dig up the past? what does that even have to do w/ this? i made a comment my OPINION omg..sue me k?

burning85...ur the best. i gotta come out again and hang out w/ya . ty.

opencab...my pic is in my yahoo profile...doesn't take much to find. and if ur lookin for a pic of my in bunker gear...good luck...none exhist! but i do havea pic of me in a black and red pinstripe suit :D

Rumorville...u tell me to grow up? look at some of ur posts..
:yawn: :sigh: :yawn:
:yawn: !!!!!!
enough said.

[Rumorville]

boring.....:YAWN:
......blabber, blabber, blabber......

[EMT/FF99]

Was browsing some stories from the past few years about firefighters being punished for pics of dancers or strippers taken at the firehouse. Got me a thinking?

I understand being punished for this, but what if it's your significant other and she's more than willing? Should you be punished for that, it's not going out to the public....

And to be fair and answer my own question I have taken many many many pics of my wife in & out of my gear as well as with our trucks. She thinks it's fun!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOO
Who here has taken pictures of their wife, girlfriend, or significant other wearing, taking off, or whatever with their bunkers????

How about a risque pic of them with one of your trucks or at your station?
Ok,,Let's either get back on topic here or just let the thread die out a quick & painless death!

I beleive by reading crshresq911's ORIGINAL post (listed above for all to re-read again, including myself) was asking "Who here has taken pictures of their wife, girlfriend or significant other wearing, taking off or whatever with their bunkers????" I don't beleive anywhere within his post did he ask for anyone to post the photos here on TWD, just whom has taken photos?

I know for fact, I have taken a few of my wife in Bunkers for her personal website (Yes she is fully clothed also underneath) & 1 or 2 for a Fire Dept (That we both ran with @ 1 point together) website. Again any & all photos that were taken she did was fully clothed underneath. Ok, so finally someone answered the question within a reasonable way. NEXT???????

[mohican]

"It's all the same....only the names have changed...." :rolleyes: :D

You will be given 50 demerits AND 4 hours detention scrubbing brushtrucks that have been through a cow pasture for quoting BonWeenie :eek: :eek:

[OCNYFireBuff]

Umm....isn't that a tad bit harsh for a first offense? :eek: :D :D

[ChiTown]

So you dont like the fact that I made an observation huh? Too fuckin bad. You are acting like Miss America posted her pic and we are dummies for not recognizing beauty. I am sure EMTMOM is a very nice person but, if you post your "seductive" picture on a website, dont be all ticked off if not everyone thinks you're some kind of hottie. Pretty simple stuff..Buy the ticket, take the ride.

[Ghetto3FF]

So you dont like the fact that I made an observation huh? Too fuckin bad. You are acting like Miss America posted her pic and we are dummies for not recognizing beauty. I am sure EMTMOM is a very nice person but, if you post your "seductive" picture on a website, dont be all ticked off if not everyone thinks you're some kind of hottie. Pretty simple stuff..Buy the ticket, take the ride.
Are you simply blind or what moron? Re-read my post again. Let me help you out I A MALE!!! The thread is ABOUT Girlfriends/Wives in Bunker Gear!

[Emtmom]

So you dont like the fact that I made an observation huh? Too fuckin bad. You are acting like Miss America posted her pic and we are dummies for not recognizing beauty. I am sure EMTMOM is a very nice person but, if you post your "seductive" picture on a website, dont be all ticked off if not everyone thinks you're some kind of hottie. Pretty simple stuff..Buy the ticket, take the ride.You call that a seductive picture?? :D I was hiking with my kids, not out taking "seductive" pics to post.
Now could we all just let this die a peaceful quiet death! :)

[ChiTown]

I am neither blind, nor moronic, but I will try to explain it to you Ghetto..I am t-y-p-i-n-g v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y for you. If you read my post The only thing I am referring to you about,was the fact that you didnt like my observation. I am curious to see where it says anywhere in my post that you are a female. EmtMom gets props for being a good sport. Maybe it was me mom, but the slung low shoulder strap had a certain "come hither" look to it. I really was only playing around. But now that the esteemed Ghetto FF has captured my attention with his histronics, I am far more interested in this thread then I should be. Ghetto FF, why isnt YOUR wife/girlfriend posing in bunker gear? I am not sure what the point would be anyway because last time I checked, bunker gear AINT SEXY.

[Emtmom]

EmtMom gets props for being a good sport. Maybe it was me mom, but the slung low shoulder strap had a certain "come hither" look to it. I really was only playing around. Sorry to disappoint you Chi, just a broken buckle, and comfy shorts of a farm girl! :D

[ChiTown]

Gotta watch dem buckles. Look at all the trouble they caused :eek:

[Ghetto3FF]

I am neither blind, nor moronic, but I will try to explain it to you Ghetto..I am t-y-p-i-n-g v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y for you. If you read my post The only thing I am referring to you about,was the fact that you didnt like my observation. I am curious to see where it says anywhere in my post that you are a female. EmtMom gets props for being a good sport. Maybe it was me mom, but the slung low shoulder strap had a certain "come hither" look to it. I really was only playing around. But now that the esteemed Ghetto FF has captured my attention with his histronics, I am far more interested in this thread then I should be. Ghetto FF, why isnt YOUR wife/girlfriend posing in bunker gear? I am not sure what the point would be anyway because last time I checked, bunker gear AINT SEXY.
I apolgize since I read your post in correctly there or did I?

[LostOnScene]

damn i hate when my clothes break...

[21Truck]

ok i got to add my 2 cents here like everyone else....Now i will say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but i dont agree with someone who has an opinion and beats it like a dead horse. I saw the picture and I will say that to me its not for me and didnt get overly excited but i wouldnt be rude to her ebcause i'm sure she is a nice person and that counts for more then looks..as far as the lost one whever she is I saw her pic to and she aint bad looking but she looks like she is 30 something and not 20. IS she an idiot? you bet your ass she is with the way she is to people. If you can't play nice in the sandbox then get out..its as simple as that...she does need an attitude adjustment though if you ask me

[mvfdkrazydogg]

OOOO 2 for 1 special sounds like a threesome! :eek:

sorry but i was looking through t old post and just had to say this.....

what do you call 2 firemen having sex with a woman at the same time?


A CROSSLAY!!!!

[Emtmom]

sorry but i was looking through t old post and just had to say this.....

what do you call 2 firemen having sex with a woman at the same time?


A CROSSLAY!!!!OMG, that's funny!

[mvfdkrazydogg]

hey what do can i say. sometimes you just can't get your mind up out of the gutter.

[mohican]

A few weeks ago I was on a "day trip" to Put In Bay in Ohio. There VFD had a "beefcake" calendar for sale in several of the shops as a fundraiser. I stopped by their station and talked to someone there and it seems like all the members were okay with it.

[pete shweaty]

Good grief! 12 pages and only one picture. Some people can really take a thread off the track!

[mohican]

damn i hate when my clothes break...

yeah, we hate that too........ :eek:

[mohican]

sorry but i was looking through t old post and just had to say this.....

what do you call 2 firemen having sex with a woman at the same time?


A CROSSLAY!!!!
some women are a CROSSLAY, regardless of # of partners..... :rolleyes:

[Veritas]

I say we do an issue of "WatchDesk Illustrated"... MOM, you can be on the cover!

[Emtmom]

I say we do an issue of "WatchDesk Illustrated"... MOM, you can be on the cover!
My avatar can be the cover! ROFL

[mohican]

I say we do an issue of "WatchDesk Illustrated"... MOM, you can be on the cover!

how about another pic of young veritas

welcome back

hows the baby?

[Veritas]

Sure! Why not? I'll gladly put my cans forward for the sake of the Nation's Bravest ;)

The baby's great! He is 8 mos now and is a big big big boy. We're about to get our first tooth, so the family's very excited. Oh and Thank God the sleepless nights are finally over! :)

[OCNYFireBuff]

Ditto what PFD said! :D

[Emtmom]

Sure! Why not? I'll gladly put my cans forward for the sake of the Nation's Bravest ;)

The baby's great! He is 8 mos now and is a big big big boy. We're about to get our first tooth, so the family's very excited. Oh and Thank God the sleepless nights are finally over! :)Looks like you're going on the cover hon!!! Got to be better than my puss! LOL
Good luck with the teething!!!!

[Veritas]

Yeah I'll need it :)

So what are we gonna call the mag? Barely Legal and Soaking Wet? Firehouse Illustrated? The Hose? (wait, that's the ladies' edition),

[Emtmom]

Yeah I'll need it :)

So what are we gonna call the mag? Barely Legal and Soaking Wet? Firehouse Illustrated? The Hose? (wait, that's the ladies' edition),
FIREHOUSE FRUSTRATED! lol

[OCNYFireBuff]

Yeah I'll need it :)

So what are we gonna call the mag? Barely Legal and Soaking Wet? Firehouse Illustrated? The Hose? (wait, that's the ladies' edition),

BARELY LEGAL???? Damn, thought you were older than that. Guess I best get my mind out of the gutter! :eek: ;) :D :D :D

[ufc3tick]

heres a picture for everyone

[Chips]

I bet she falls in to the barely legal group

[ufc3tick]

hows this?

[southsidefire]

hows this?


SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[BLEEDING_FIRE]

Hey Was Just Browsing Through And All I Can Say Is Wow. :d

[TJ24]

wow thats nice can we see some more like that

[suspended]

we have seen her befor she just keeps getting better

[Leather Lung]

I thought this Post would have been loaded with pic's of Firehouse HHHHHOOOOOSSSS

[Veritas]

The pin up I think is cute

[Veritas]

Mom... God Help Me! Ay Papi!

[ufc3tick]

i need this video(flash point) to add to my collection

[outlawfirefighter]

Taken in a local firehouse!! Heard these 2 are making there rounds though.

Heard they were from Whore Island!

[ufc3tick]

they can come to my firehouse in frederick md

[suspended]

This thread might not have been good tast but was alot of fun

[Station4_Sinn]

Wow this is a nice thread

[joefireman]

Yeah I'll need it :)

So what are we gonna call the mag? Barely Legal and Soaking Wet? Firehouse Illustrated? The Hose? (wait, that's the ladies' edition),
How about Hose Test Illustrated?

[Bubba B. Bubba]

Taken in a local firehouse!! Heard these 2 are making there rounds though.

Heard they were from Whore Island!
Really?!?

Puff Puff Give. Dont F-ck up the rotation.

:)

Directions To Riverdale Fire Department (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Riverdale+Fire+Department&sll=38.963046,-76.933994&sspn=0.008009,0.014462&ie=UTF8&ll=38.966066,-76.933072&spn=0.008008,0.014462&z=16&iwloc=A&om=1)

[LadderTruckGoes]

And she grew a set of chestnuts too!!! :D

Not a bad picture. I would bet that she isn't in the fire service, but just put the gear on for the pic!!

Sorry I got this one late... ha ha ha

She real, and she's definately a firefighter. I was asked not to devoulge where, but it's far on the west coast.

[LT.Denzel]

Greetings All,
I am new to this site.