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SouthsideTRKman
03-04-2005, 02:35 PM
Here's the difference between the left and the right.

Liberals talk, the Right does.

Being a liberal is intellectually and physically lazy.

They would rather give the money you worked for to someone else so they can feel better about themselves. Then have the gall to call you greedy. When it is they who are taking from you to give to others. That is the essence of greed.

They will bring up a host of social problems or ills and always prescribe but one and only one solution.............."The Government (insert cause DuJour here) needs to do something about this" is the cry. Not people, not individuals, not them. The collective.

Again, they don't have to do anything other than to get you to give them more money, remember you're the greedy one though.

The left loves unions because it follows the same theme. It doesn't reward hard work, merely showing up and time served sometimes even protecting poor workers from big bad evil corporations. Don't make enough? No problem, we'll shake down the corporation until you do, forget the market rate for labor. Teachers unions? Same sad song. Only this time it's money directly from tax payers because of course 11,000 per year per child is just not enough, it's a crisis and we're under funding our kids, after all, it' for the kids.

The only big business the left really loves are trial lawyers (And Hollywood but I'll get to that in a minute) why? Simple, again they don't have to lift a finger. Spill hot coffee on your crotch, not your fault, it's the evil corporation's fault and how dare they serve you hot coffee. Got liver cancer from drinking to much? Another victim is born. Please pay 2,000,000, do not pass go. Professional victims are never a product of their own decisions which is a recurring theme for the left. The lawyers are merely the Doberman protecting the pile of lazy bones.

Universities are the perfect place to grow and foster intellectual and physical laziness. Again, no action is required. Just being amongst the leftist echo chambers of almost every hall of academia is generally enough to cement the indoctrination. The only effort required here is that you must participate in protests declaring your own countries evil. Once and a while you will be required to make a sign and draw the swastika over your political oppositions face but then it's back to the quad for cappuccino. Don't worry, even the professors don't have to have the correct credentials, heck they can even be a plagiarist, as long as they say the right things.

Hollywood is the perfect embodiment for the left. It's a veritable dream world for the leftists. Fake hair, fake boobs, fake movie set towns and fake concern. Again, not much actual effort is required because you get to pretend to be anything you want to be. You can even pretend to know what you are talking about because after all you read the lines someone else wrote on paper. You get to pretend all day you're someone else, making you an instant foreign & domestic policy expert.

Then of course the most important of all aspect of leftist laziness.

World peace and human rights. This is the grand daddy of all acting jobs. By mere words you get to seem concerned. For years you'll have people believing you're committed to ending human rights abuses, tyranny and spreading freedom and the other guys are just well.....Nazis!. Naturally.

This is the easiest of all to pull off. You get to defer to the United Nations who is great at no action either with a few examples being. Srebrenica, Rwanda, Iraq, Somalia, Food for oil, raping the ones meant to be protected, covering up your buddies sexual misconduct and my personal current favorite, refusing to even call the genocide in Darfur genocide. When you can't even call that slaughter genocide you know you've reached the pinnacle in laziness. I mean the left is usually great at words but can't even summon the energy to call it what it is and then feign concern. To back up your cries of concern you'll need someone really committed to doing nothing like, France.

Then you get to use all of these forces mentioned to do, well, nothing. You get people to call for increasing foreign aid because we all know that's what causes terrorism, well that and the evil U.S that caused in the first place. You get to hit the campus and march using your stock Bush is Hitler sign. You get to have your ethnic study prof. call them all Eichmans. (notice an obsession with the Nazis by the left? Intellectual laziness?) reserve strength you'll need some back up. Calling all Hollywood actors! If their sound reasoning won't bring you around what will? And for the heavy guns they get to go directly to Europe and then or good measure the mother ship, the U.N.

All these together have accomplished what in the last 25 years? Think about it. They have done some great talking and sure can put a protest together like nobody's business. But what have they actually done? Well other than increase bureaucracy, the size of government and taken more money and freedom. That was a gimmie, but o.k. other than that, what?

In the mean time the right does. We work. In general take actions for our responsibility and actually encourage it in others, this is often confused with not caring. We create wealth by working, we just don't expect someone else who hasn't or won't work yet whom is able to pull their own weight to do so. In general we mean what we say. We actually beleive that someone's skin color shouldn't matter. The left makes it an instant virtue (see autovictimization) Reagan was laughed off as a moronic cowboy who was going to start ww3. In the end through action, he returned a nation to prosperity, rebuilt the military and brought down the wall without a shot. The left stood there in stunned silence. Then after a short period went right back to comparing Reagan to Hitler or a senile old dope.

As far as ending freedom and oppression the left usually defers to the U.N, Europe or groups like Amnesty International. Their list of accomplishments......(Insert Cricket noises here) Bush is of course a moronic cowboy who stole (another) election. He had the audacity to actually call North Korea, Iran and Syria part of the "axis of evil". The left gasped. Of course they love it when Dean called the right evil and KKK Byrd's Hitler comparison. (What is it about Hitler?) But nary a word for brutal dictators. They save those harsh words for the people actually freeing people. Why Bush that bellicose cowboy is going to enrage the Arab street! Boy did he, he enraged the common person who saw freedoms birth happening. He awakened an entire region to become active and do something and become enraged about the tyranny they'd been under for 300 years to actually do something. Again the left stands by offering biscuits of wisdom like "Wrong war, wrong place wrong time". The wall has fallen again and the left is reduced to a spectator. Their contribution other than some hoping for their own country to fail? Words, no action but words. At some point does the rest of the world notice how lazy they've become? Let's hope so. It will probably take someone on the right to point it out.

Emtmom
03-04-2005, 05:23 PM
Who wrote this? What paper or magazine was it in? I know curiosity killed the cat and all, but I am still curious to know!

Hopewell
03-04-2005, 11:12 PM
First of all, that is not a news story, it's an op/ed piece. Secondly, it's just another example of generalizing, stereotyping, namecalling, and opinion presented as fact in an attempt to convince the weak-minded that there is only one way of thinking.

Ironically, one of the few things I am intolerant of is intolerance.

Emtmom
03-04-2005, 11:18 PM
First of all, that is not a news story, it's an op/ed piece. Secondly, it's just another example of generalizing, stereotyping, namecalling, and opinion presented as fact in an attempt to convince the weak-minded that there is only one way of thinking.

Ironically, one of the few things I am intolerant of is intolerance.That was what I was thinking, and why I asked who wrote it and where it was published.

Chia6004
03-05-2005, 04:25 AM
Sounds like Limbaugh.

Most have been a Fox special report.

And whats with all the hate for unions? I know its bad for corporations which makes it bad for special interests which then makes it bad for Dubya.

Engages Republican thinking cap. It is Immoral to oppose Bush, which makes it immoral to oppose anything with any ties to Bush therefore Unions are evil, geez that was easy. I think I understand Republicans a little better.

Hollywood for the love of god if I hear one more person from the red states bitching about Hollywood I will go postal. If you don't like it stop seeing the movies. I seriously doubt that blue staters are the only people who went to see Million dollar baby. The most recent event that drove me fucking bonkers. Million Dollar Baby. SPOILERS IF YOU HAVENT SEEN THE MOVIE AND DON'T WANT IT RUINED LOOK AWAY. At the end when the lead acctress is Euthanised by Clint Eastwood all of the CC and radical right are up in arms about it because it shows murder. Ok let me get this straight, It was ok when Clint Eastwood acted in all of those other movies where someone died, you know, The good the bad the ugly, Pale rider, high plains drifter, unforgiven etc etc etc but it was fucking wrong this time?????

Republican thinking cap overloads cannot rationalise it.

"Hollywood is the perfect embodiment for the left. It's a veritable dream world for the leftists. Fake hair, fake boobs, fake movie set towns and fake concern. Again, not much actual effort is required because you get to pretend to be anything you want to be. You can even pretend to know what you are talking about because after all you read the lines someone else wrote on paper. You get to pretend all day you're someone else, making you an instant foreign & domestic policy expert."

Sorry I had to go here. That sounds like a certain elected official I know. Just remeber we never stop thinking about new way to harm our people.

"This is the easiest of all to pull off. You get to defer to the United Nations who is great at no action either with a few examples being. Srebrenica, Rwanda, Iraq, Somalia, Food for oil, raping the ones meant to be protected, covering up your buddies sexual misconduct and my personal current favorite, refusing to even call the genocide in Darfur genocide. When you can't even call that slaughter genocide you know you've reached the pinnacle in laziness. I mean the left is usually great at words but can't even summon the energy to call it what it is and then feign concern. To back up your cries of concern you'll need someone really committed to doing nothing like, France."

LMFAO. Wait I thought that the War in Iraq was for hummantrian reasons? So if that was the case, and we completly took the UN out of there role by us taking over peace keeping roles wouldn't the lack of action in the Sudan be our fault. You can't have it both ways. Either we decided that the hummantirian impacts were such that we had to shun the International community to save a people from torment thereby creating a precedence where we have to do it everytime. Our it never was really about the Iraqi people and Bush lied. So which is it?

"As far as ending freedom and oppression the left usually defers to the U.N, Europe or groups like Amnesty International. Their list of accomplishments......(Insert Cricket noises here) Bush is of course a moronic cowboy who stole (another) election. He had the audacity to actually call North Korea, Iran and Syria part of the "axis of evil".

This so called document just lost all credibility right there. Try fact checking you retard. It was NK, Iraq and Afganistan. I guess the right really wants Syria as well.

"The left gasped. Of course they love it when Dean called the right evil and KKK Byrd's Hitler comparison. (What is it about Hitler?) But nary a word for brutal dictators. They save those harsh words for the people actually freeing people. Why Bush that bellicose cowboy is going to enrage the Arab street! Boy did he, he enraged the common person who saw freedoms birth happening. He awakened an entire region to become active and do something and become enraged about the tyranny they'd been under for 300 years to actually do something.

Uhhh when the fuck did this happen? If your reffering to Lebannon. Yes it was because of Iraq that people of that nation have taking steps to free themselves. [face_rolls_eyes]
Republican thinking cap overloaded 20 minutes ago.

Thats like a cop taking credit for a fire being put out because they happened to be in the same area.



The whole point of this article summed up.


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STEALTH MODE
03-05-2005, 04:42 AM
The whole point of this article summed up.

afadsfhkhnkjnkjion lazy hjklahfjlhauoghfuoahpii skh freedom ghakdlfhlksdnfksad hkljdnsjlgh askhdglk bush saves ghkhdasfvn hkjlgdhb bhjdh liberals evil fhasdgh ghd listen to bush gfahdjgbv hgkadshf bush can do no wrong. fabhjgbhfaih

Ok, I had no intention of posting in this thread cuz I don't really get into all the political crap, BUT, Chia hooked me! I really think that is the LONGESSSSST post I have ever seen! It just kept going, and going... Yikes! Ha, Bravo - gotta be a record...

I did not see the movie "Million Dollar Baby" yet, but for some reason when you said to "look away" (which was very thoughtful I thought) - I COULDN'T - it was like a BAD accident that you just can't take your eyes off of - I just kept on reading (sigh)... damn!

The last part, that I left in quote - FUNNY! I like it... :D

STEALTH MODE
03-05-2005, 04:49 AM
CHIA hooked me! I really think that is the LONGESSSSST post I have ever seen! It just kept going, and going...

HA-HA, I have to correct myself - Chia, sorry - while you are in fact a close second - I just happened to read up again at SOUTHSIDE's begining post... I'm afraid his is WAY longer (and I even read his entire post).

I do believe SOUTHSIDE has the LONGEST ......post I've ever seen - he wins! Sorry... :p

xploded
03-05-2005, 12:07 PM
From the above posts it seems that some libs had their feelings hurt by the truth. Who ever wrote that piece is saying what a lot of us think. Sorry if that doesn't fit the bill of tolerance.

BigGreasy
03-05-2005, 12:58 PM
Ah Screw both the left and the right none of them are for the people or by the people. They are for themselfs and own interests only except where they have to satisfy big money that backs them. They are all hypocrites. Sad thing is Southside is not wrong in most of what he said and Chia6004 is not wrong in most of that post either. This is sad cause we spend so much time name calling etc. that we dont call out our elected officals to come up with solutions for our problems that benefit us not cause more problems. personally i am tired of the name calling between both parties elections ended now the job of working together for the people and country is their job but no both parties are still trying to show each other up instead of showing up for the job they were elected for. What government for the people by the people not the us government not this day and age sad real sad. What happened to all of us working together for our country no if the person we want to win doesnt we cry cry cry and name call and critize everything they do even if it may help or make things better just spin it badly to make it what you want we have allowed our news media to report lies and half truths as fact based news when it is merely political comentary. Well in todays world i am totally expecting replies of liar and idiot and you dont have a clue. Well to all of those who do I merely end with screw you !!!

BCFD in Philly
03-05-2005, 01:50 PM
"As far as ending freedom and oppression the left usually defers to the U.N, Europe or groups like Amnesty International. Their list of accomplishments......(Insert Cricket noises here) Bush is of course a moronic cowboy who stole (another) election. He had the audacity to actually call North Korea, Iran and Syria part of the "axis of evil".

This so called document just lost all credibility right there. Try fact checking you retard. It was NK, Iraq and Afganistan. I guess the right really wants Syria as well.



Excerpt from 2002 State of the Union address:

Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror from threatening America or our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction. Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since September the 11th. But we know their true nature. North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens.

Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Iranian people's hope for freedom.

Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax, and nerve gas, and nuclear weapons for over a decade. This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens -- leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections -- then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.

States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic.

Citation:http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020129-11.html

Chia6004 - Appears you have been hoisted by your own petard. Are you related to Barbara Streisand? She posted her rants and raves about the toppling of Hussein, whom she indentified as "the leader of IRAN" on her web site for several months in 2003. BTW it's Afghanistan, not Afganistan.

Mad Co Citizen
03-05-2005, 02:20 PM
Chia, you could replace your:

"afadsfhkhnkjnkjion lazy hjklahfjlhauoghfuoahpii skh freedom ghakdlfhlksdnfksad hkljdnsjlgh askhdglk bush saves ghkhdasfvn hkjlgdhb bhjdh liberals evil fhasdgh ghd listen to bush gfahdjgbv hgkadshf bush can do no wrong. fabhjgbhfaih"

with

"afadsfhkhnkjnkjion liar hjklahfjlhauoghfuoahpii skh income redistribution ghakdlfhlksdnfksad hkljdnsjlgh askhdglk dubya sucks ghkhdasfvn hkjlgdhb bhjdh religious fanatics fhasdgh ghd listen to kerry gfahdjgbv hgkadshf bush can do no right. fabhjgbhfaih"

so that the quote fits the left...no real difference.

Maybe the felons will start voting so a democrat has a chance at the next election.

No Fear
03-05-2005, 09:06 PM
The political battle grounds continue. Is it election time already, where was I the last 3 years? I must a agree with Big Grease, both have valid points to considered. However this is not Hollywood or the land of Oz. This is America, Home of the Free and Brave. I do resent when Hollywood express their political views on everything. Do you really think they made an impression on the last election. I do, and the funny part about it was is that it helped the one they were going against.

Colleges and Universities: There you go, the brightest, my assessment losers. I find it very hard to believe that these assholes invite a communists name Ward Churchill to fault the brave men and women who die at WTC, Pentagon and inthe field in PA. If you are the fire, ems, or even cops that you say you are, you would denounce this type of statements and behavior, being made not from just Churchill, but also the all those colleges and unversities involved. But I am sure there be one of you denouncing me for interferring with freedom of speech.

If we use our resources to better America instead of complaining who the president is maybe, just maybe, we all could have the life we all come to expect from this great country. But no, we have to hold our hand out and wait for someone to put something in it for doing nothing and later bitch about it in the same breath.

Chia, I must admit sometimes you do bring up some good info, however I never see you post your type of media for doing something wrong, however your quick to point the finger at Fox, What about Dan Rather, trying to spread info. that wasn't true about the president. Cost him his intergrity and job basically.

So instead of bitching and complaining and asking for handouts, maybe we should go back in time and learn things the old fashion way.

Chia6004
03-06-2005, 12:07 AM
"Chia6004 - Appears you have been hoisted by your own petard. Are you related to Barbara Streisand? She posted her rants and raves about the toppling of Hussein, whom she indentified as "the leader of IRAN" on her web site for several months in 2003. BTW it's Afghanistan, not Afganistan."

Ouch owned by the typo.

"Excerpt from 2002 State of the Union address:

Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror from threatening America or our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction. Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since September the 11th. But we know their true nature. North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens.

Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Iranian people's hope for freedom.

Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax, and nerve gas, and nuclear weapons for over a decade. This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens -- leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections -- then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.

States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic."

Uhh were was Syria at in this piece?

Still I was speaking in reference to Syria being lumped into the axis of evil. Yes they are an evil regime, but guess what, nothing has changed in the past four years, they are as evil today as they were prior to 9/11. So why include them now?

Barbara Streisand = crazy bi***, see I hate stupid liberals too.

"Chia, you could replace your:

"afadsfhkhnkjnkjion lazy hjklahfjlhauoghfuoahpii skh freedom ghakdlfhlksdnfksad hkljdnsjlgh askhdglk bush saves ghkhdasfvn hkjlgdhb bhjdh liberals evil fhasdgh ghd listen to bush gfahdjgbv hgkadshf bush can do no wrong. fabhjgbhfaih"

with

"afadsfhkhnkjnkjion liar hjklahfjlhauoghfuoahpii skh income redistribution ghakdlfhlksdnfksad hkljdnsjlgh askhdglk dubya sucks ghkhdasfvn hkjlgdhb bhjdh religious fanatics fhasdgh ghd listen to kerry gfahdjgbv hgkadshf bush can do no right. fabhjgbhfaih"

so that the quote fits the left...no real difference.

Maybe the felons will start voting so a democrat has a chance at the next election."

LMFAO. See thats why I like you mad co, you manage to go toe to toe with me every single time on almost every issue. Cheers.

"Chia, I must admit sometimes you do bring up some good info, however I never see you post your type of media for doing something wrong, however your quick to point the finger at Fox, What about Dan Rather, trying to spread info. that wasn't true about the president. Cost him his intergrity and job basically."

I almost included him in my rant, I took it out at the last second though.

I'm the first person to fault the liberal media. They are hurting america in more ways then the conversative media. The liberals refuse to ask the tough questions on ANYONE? and when they do its always something trival like, "Did a rich lady sell some stocks?" The conservative media spreads propaganda and the liberals don't fact check and shoot it down. Both are wrong IMO.

mohican
03-06-2005, 09:12 AM
First of all, that is not a news story, it's an op/ed piece. Secondly, it's just another example of generalizing, stereotyping, namecalling, and opinion presented as fact in an attempt to convince the weak-minded that there is only one way of thinking.

Ironically, one of the few things I am intolerant of is intolerance.

A little intolerance at times can be a good thing

No Fear
03-06-2005, 11:47 PM
Chia , are you sure your not Michael Moore looking for more propaganda for a new movie.

Chia6004
03-07-2005, 03:18 AM
Nope, I actually use my gym pass.

SouthsideTRKman
03-07-2005, 08:09 AM
I did NOT write this article. It was written by someone from www.rightnation.us

I might agree with alot of it, but I won't take the Credit for writing it.

mohican
03-08-2005, 12:44 AM
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