Rescue Pumper

[thesilentone]

Could anyone tell me what tools a rescue pumper will carry....

[fireresq243]

We have a rescue pumper at our station and it carrys all the normal equipment a pumper carrys plus it has extra compartments for a Hurst tool, high pressure airbags.and cribbling along with extra scene lights

[trakrekord]

www.laurelrescue.org they have a good one

[mohican]

first, you got to answer what you want to do with it

is it a rescue with pump and water?

or is it a pumper with extrications tools on board?

[firemanjoe]

I like the Concept of having best of both worlds on one truck. But what is its main use. A department near me has a pumer with all the good stuff for structur fires then it has everything a rescue needs. They call it a heavy rescue, It was bought to put out fires not to be a heavy rescue then put out fires. Remeber what its main us is and its secondary use is.

[Watercan]

The Rescue-Pumper is a compromise for whatever reason the department decided to do it. Nothing wrong with that, if it suits that company's needs. I doubt however that A RESCUE-PUMPER can have all the necessary rescue equipment to be called a heavy rescue and ALL the needed strucutre equipment including at least 750 gallons of water and sufficient supply line to do an outstanding job on strucure calls. In many cases it may be a good idea if all the equipment you choose to carry for either function will fit on one rig...If it works for you, great!

[FF371]

The Rescue-Engine concept has really spread through the Fire-rescue community in the last 5 yrs. Like other's have said here, it really depends what your departments needs are. In my Dept we just replaced 2 older trucks, one a class A pumper, and the other a heavy utility body truck. So we needed a truck with a pump, but enough room for a heavy Rescue vehicle. Go to www.orangevfc.com and you can see them. The Wagon and the Salvage are the trucks we are replacing with the new Squad. So it really works for our Department. The new truck, which we will call Squad, will have enough equipment to be classified as a heavy rescue, but will be able to function as a first in Engine, but we also have another Class A pumper a Tanker-pumper and a ladder truck which would never be far behind the Squad if it were first in.

[fdnysmketr]

I have been doing a lot of research in an effort to come up with a good design for our new Rescue Engine. First, it was decided that it will be designated a Rescue, because it's primary job is Rescue and our County doesn't recognize Rescue Engines. Second, we knew due to limited manpower that it must have a pump and carry water. I sought out the advice of close friends Mike Wilbur and Tom Shand of EVR, two men I would consider experts in the field of apparatus design. They both advised that it must do one thing better than the other, because when you try to go 50/50 it does both ok, but neither great.

With that decided, I attempted to find standards on Rescue Engines and Equipment to be carried on it. Very few exist. What we decided to do was follow several standards which overlap each other. We are following the Rescue Engine and Heavy Rescue Standard I acquired from Frederick County, MD. This is a very, very basic standard. We are also attempting to meet the "Medium USAR" Standard. We actually come close to the Heavy Standard but we don't carry some of the heavy tools such as Jack Hammers and Concrete Saws. I am in the process of writing a mutual aid plan with the local rental facility and lumber yard for those items. With that, some of our Collapse Tools, extra cribbing, portable pumps and long shoring won't actually be carried on this rig, but on a "Special Operations" Trailer. This rig is around 225-230" wheelbase, but with the modern steering angles we feel we'll be fine getting into even our tight lanes.

As for the pump, I kind of lost on this one. I only wanted a 750-1,000 gpm, but we instead are specing a 1500 gpm rear mount. With the all electric pump panel, it should save a little room. It has 750 gallons of water, 40 gal. Class "A" and 60 gal. Class "B" foam.

As for hydraulic tools, we spec'd the Amkus Ultimate System with 4 reels and an additional pigtail. This allowed us to go smaller on the hydraulic generator at 20kw. Scene Lighting includes 900w HIR's which produce almost the same lumens as a 1500w.

The Cab is a 22" raised roof with the body matching the height of the cab. This gives us 32" deep coffin compartments, which allows the reels to be mounted in the coffins and still have room for equipment above the reels via a false floor. The rear mount pump also affords a front transverse compartment.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me.