Haz_Mat drill

[LtDad]

Mortlake hosted an awesome Haz-Mat drill that I hope leads to the county Haz_Mat coordinators developing a response plan that can used by all the towns/departments...to bad some departments didnt participate...would of been a good education for them......

[mrtmom2]

gee i wonder what depts didn't go LOL

[jackas93]

Some people get paid to that stuff and some don't.

[Emtmom]

Some people get paid to that stuff and some don't.
I'm sorry, let me see if I get this, you didn't go because you didn't get paid too? ARE YOU SERIOUS? I'd have paid to go play with Haz Mat stuff! But then I did love taking the Haz Mat operational level classes with the fire dept..

[jackas93]

Maybe some have to work 6 days a week to make extra money . So you can keep your BS haz mat drill . And if the real thing did happen, WELL GOOD FUCKIN LUCK

[Emtmom]

Maybe some have to work 6 days a week to make extra money . So you can keep your BS haz mat drill . And if the real thing did happen, WELL GOOD FUCKIN LUCK
WOW, someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Honey go take a nap, maybe you'll be less cranky when you wake up! :rolleyes:

[MTFD515]

ok, you say you do not want to "be a part of the haz-Mat Drill" but if your alpha pager or voice pager went off for a HAZ-MAT call, don't tell me you wouldn't respond???? then when you get there you would "think" you would know what to do but in realitity you wouldn't and do something wrong an become a statistic!!!..... on the other hand I do agree with jackass! (yes, I know??) The whole regional haz-mat team is a great concept but it should be left to the paid departments. Now please don't mother f#ck me for that statement. here is my reasoning.... To be on a Haz-mat team you have to dedicate alot of $$$$$ and Time. Yes some $$ gets replaced by the government but remember whose money that is? all of ours. Why I'm I going to outfit all these town with Haz-Mat equipment when they are not going to use it for one and 2 I will have to spend more money to replace it. You mean to tell me the Quinebaug Fire Dept in Thompson needs all this Haz-mat equipment because there is a .5% there could be a haz-mat incident in there town. The other issue is time, in this day and age of volunteering, not only are you doing fire and EMS training for requirement, volunteers are working 2 jobs, attending family or sporting events and other daily life activities. who has time to attend all these haz-mat drills. If you look at some resent area drill/training it ieither chief officers (so they can be in charge or tell someone where to go ) and young kids just out of high school. ok, Thats enough for now, I think everyone's eyes need a break. I'm not done. To be continued.........

[Towerhook]

Now you've done it, I know what and why you’re taking about it. But all departments should have basic knowledge and equipment to keep them out of trouble (or get them in-trouble). Then when the smaller ones hit, they maybe able to handle them. AS LONG AS THEY KNOW WHEN TO STOP AND DENI ENTRY. Then call me and you, because if you shut them down, we will have an hour ride to help them out. I do not wish this...
But if they cannot handle it then just snap the carrot.........and the fleet will be on the way, Also just remember our whole team is not just made up of career departments. So let’s not start the whole career vs. volunteer crap again. We all have great, good and poor members & officers, I do not care what departments we are associated with. If we don’t train, we do not learn, what’s right and what’s wrong or if we can handle it. The thing we need to due is pull the money and buy what we really need not what the state thinks we need. The north and the south have combined in some ways lets hope the ones incharge work together and straighten the program out.

[LtDad]

Ditto to MTFD and Towerhook......leave the Technical stuff to the career departments....they train better in it...get financing for it..they're availible 24/7...all the whackers like Jackass93 have to do is approach the scene...hopefully stop and say there's some bad shit here...and start the higher level resources to mitigate the scene....life would sooo much simpler....(I know..I'm in dreamland again).....I expect really good things to come out of the combining of north and south CERRIT teams and support the concept 110%....once the north gets thier act together as they are doing as we speak....

[jackas93]

If a haz-mat call is serious . The first to be called is the state and certified techs leave the wackers in charge of making coffee(maybe) and moving people out of the area(maybe) . If its that bad, I won't be there.

[MTFD515]

well, I applaud you jackass93, for your Haz-Mat training has paid off! I do agree, every department should have training on the basics but there are some firefighters up north who do 50 or less calls year, ( None of them are in this forum) who think they are Haz-Mat techs because they have a cert from the state. They don't even wear their "goods" at fire never mind a level "B" suit. There is one department who thinks they were a Haz-Mat team prior to the north Cerrit that can't obtain a crew to respond to a house fire but they labeled themselves as a Haz-mat team.

In conclusion, I like the fact the North and South are going to be working together, I would like to see this move on to other parts of the fire and EMS service (EMS is a whole other issue) but for now we have to make this part work to be able to proceed to the next step!

[MTFD515]

I forgot Jackass93, there are some types of fires that are Haz-mat incidents too... so don't say you are not going to be there. you just might be! oh yeah that's right, I guess you would have to go to a fire to find out?????

[jackas93]

I bet you wear a scba the whole time your at a house or car fire .The next time you drink milk, It's considered a hazardous material when being transported

[LtDad]

I'll wear a scott at a car fire.....plastics....lots of contaminates/cancer causing stuff...think about 4,000 different chemical properties in the smoke...hell yeah...and expect the fire fighters to wear one also....guess that makes me a whimp.....

[AC302]

[QUOTE=jackas93The next time you drink milk, It's considered a hazardous material when being transported[/QUOTE]

Hey Jackass...where did you come up with this little gem? Bet you see a whole lotta placarded milk trucks on the road? N BTW what is the ERG number 4 milk anyways?

[jackas93]

A few months ago a milk tanker crashed and a haz-mat company was cleaning up the milk out of the area brook. WHY

[MTFD515]

I'm not sure if that is surpose to be a joke or not but milk is a hazardous material when in comes in contact with water or the environment, it displaces the oxygen in water killing all the fish and other living things. The only reason it is a haz-mat is due to it affecting the chemical in balance of the environment.

[MTFD515]

and yes I do where a SCBA at car fires, house fires, dumpster fire, everything but brush and even that can be hazardous sometimes!!!

[jackas93]

Who is the ass now.

[Towerhook]

Yes, Jackas93 is correct about the milk, but it should be labeled as an environmental hazard to wild life. But, so is drinking water. But, let’s not dwell on it. Jackas93 and all others saying they will not be at a major haz-mat. First define Major. Next time you role into a MVA or Train wreck start looking at your surroundings. You never know that’s in the vehicle, your next medical, you could walk into a meth lab in your quiet corner of CT. Then fires, just ask the guys from Providence that had Cyanide poisoning from the unknown fire(s) this summer. You may say they were not wearing their packs, some yes some no, but the one with worst condition and had a hart attack he was the engine driver that never went in. So when your filling the coffee cups up (I drink hot chocolate please) Remember to stay up wind. We all just need to stay safe, and we all need to respond, because you’re leaving your department short handed. If they get hurt or killed, the only on you can blame is you. For just listening...............
But, sum time’s I wish we could call for some one to handle it. But we can’t, and if we did everyone would be in a world of hurt. But I’m still glad that the north held the drill, and I’m glad that Jackas93 knows that he and maybe his department can not handle a sizable haz-mat or other type(s) of incidents. More (all) departments in CT or the states needed to realize this!
I’m not here to hammer anyone (unless needed) but we need to discuss issues’ that come up. We all will be right, wrong and always indifferent.
Stay low, and stay safe……………..

[justtruckin']

County!County!County! I can't wait.

[expresshockey35]

A hazardous materials class held for 8 hours on a Saturday. Sounds like a paid department training class to me. FUCK going up to Brooklyn for 8 hours to watch paid guys compare penis sizes.

"Our department cannot handle a large haz-mat incident"...well, we won't have to. Just ID it. Call in the other paid boys...Kropp, Clean Harbors, Enviromental Services...the guys that really know what they are doing and can accept the full liability of what they do. Prepardness is one thing, but playing the "what if?" game all the time will lead to a training regiment that no volunteer department will survive through. It might be time to say "enough is enough" with all this BS responsibility that's being dumped on volunteers. Shit, it's hard enough to get guys to learn how to fight fire, the original reason we're all here.

[LtDad]

Expressohockeyplayer.....you're right...the volunteers arent going to par-take in a 190 hour NFPA course for haz-mat Technician level or the cheapo 40 hr OSHA course....take recerts....physicals....have the level A suits tested...for the once in a ten year incident.....cost/time it takes of doing that are enormous....but the volleys do need to take a 24 "Operational" class that would train them in Haz-Mat identification, scene management/security, and decon procedures....basic simple training...Hell even Mikey F___ could pass it....Brooklyn was a great example of response personnel coming up on a crash....walking into smoke and liquid pouring out of a box truck...4 of them were tagged "DEAD" before others realized that was some "bad stuff" they were in...just want to prevent a real event like that happening to us.....Haz-Mat is like water rescue...nobody wants a thing to do with it till someone drowns....then its hey lets train.....