At least the old local....

[Outsider]

At least the old local, bought the shift who worked Thanksgiving, a "Turkey" dinner, at least your dues got you something back then.

But not these "TURKEYS", they didn't buy you all anything, but I did hear the academy got an all "Paid" dinner.

I wonder who paid for that.

[FireFactory]

Retard ( outsider),

The academy did have a thanksgiving dinner that was bought by the shift. Nothing was free, in fact I can give you a rundown on what we had because I bought everything. $20 bucks per person!
Once again, you are running your pie hole and are clueless because you just like to cause trouble. Question for ya...why not grow a set and put your name below your posts? You actually are getting old and sound like you need a hobby! Have a good day Cap!!


J.O.

[Outsider]

Retard ( outsider),

The academy did have a thanksgiving dinner that was bought by the shift. Nothing was free, in fact I can give you a rundown on what we had because I bought everything. $20 bucks per person!
Once again, you are running your pie hole and are clueless because you just like to cause trouble. Question for ya...why not grow a set and put your name below your posts? You actually are getting old and sound like you need a hobby! Have a good day Cap!!


And the $20.00 bucks per person, came from where?

Bet CBD didn't see any of that money did they, but then again, they can truely say they don't take SCAB money, like the academy does.

Have a better day SCAB Lover!!

[FireFactory]

I bought the dinner with my own money and then the shift reinbursed me with their own money.....you dumbass retard!

[Outsider]

I bought the dinner with my own money and then the shift reinbursed me with their own money.....you dumbass retard!

The shift has their own money?

So where did that money come from, and did CBD get their cut of the SCAB take?

You dumbass DICKHEAD!

[FireFactory]

Shit for brains....thier personal money. If you think you are so great...why not send me a message so we could chat and I could make you look like a dumbass...ooppsssss...you dont need my help! You can thank yourself for that!

[Outsider]

Shit for brains....thier personal money. If you think you are so great...why not send me a message so we could chat and I could make you look like a dumbass...ooppsssss...you dont need my help! You can thank yourself for that!

Oh, so let me get this right "Cunt Lips", the shift has it's own personal money, so where did the "shift" get it's own personal money, did all the guy's chip in (I think not), or did it come from some place else, like from the SCAB vending machines (I think so).

[FireFactory]

yea, the guys chipped in.....

GROW A SET!!!

[pgtick20]

Hey you stupid fuck. Im sick and tired of seeing your dumb ass speak of things that you have no damn clue about. The shift paid for Thanksgiving dinner with their own money. And if youre so fucking worried about the guys at CBD and their dinner, GO BUY IT YOUR FUCKING SELF!!!! And how in the hell is money from the machines at the station SCAB money? Huh? OK Ive wasted enough of my time. It would be not worth wasting more breath to expect a phone call from someone who is scared to death of signing their name. I can be contacted at Naval District Washington, 2nd Battalion, NSA Annapolis, Station #2, "B" Shift. (No one really knows our name so I figured Id make it easy for ya)

TJ

[Outsider]

So, your telling me the "all powerful" local condone's the practice of receiving money from a SCAB outfit.

What you all should have done was give it away to a Charity, not "Profit" from it, but wait, now I can call you all "SCAB's" too.

[Chief46]

Hey MORON... The money comes from profits made by the coke and candy machines in all USNA buildings, which are used by the employees, and is given to ALL civilian employees of the Naval Academy (NSA Annapolis), NOT just to the FD employees. That is right, over 600 civilian employees of which the 35 or 40 FD employees are a very small portion of the group. The money comes from a private group called Civilian Employees Recreation Association, an officially sanctioned private employee organization that has existed at the USNA for more than 40 or 50 years.

The UNION has absolutely no involvement in that organization. CERA has its own elected President, VP, Secretary and representatives. The FD, as does every office or shop, does have a rep to that organization but that is it. The FD or its rep does NOT make CERA policy.

No one has to participate in any CERA funded meals, parties or other gatherings. But if they choose not to come to one of these CERA funded events the employee gives us their portion of the funds.

I suppose the coke and candy machines at your location gives all the profits away to a charity? Bet they don't - someone or business is making a profit. Where are all of those profits going? I bet there is a group similar to the USNA's at your location.

May the truth set you free (it sucks when the real story ruins your efforts to make people look like shit doesn't it?)

TH

[Outsider]

Hey MORON... The money comes from profits made by the coke and candy machines in all USNA buildings, which are used by the employees, and is given to ALL civilian employees of the Naval Academy (NSA Annapolis), NOT just to the FD employees. That is right, over 600 civilian employees of which the 35 or 40 FD employees are a very small portion of the group. The money comes from a private group called Civilian Employees Recreation Association, an officially sanctioned private employee organization that has existed at the USNA for more than 40 or 50 years.

The UNION has absolutely no involvement in that organization. CERA has its own elected President, VP, Secretary and representatives. The FD, as does every office or shop, does have a rep to that organization but that is it. The FD or its rep does NOT make CERA policy.

No one has to participate in any CERA funded meals, parties or other gatherings. But if they choose not to come to one of these CERA funded events the employee gives us their portion of the funds.

I suppose the coke and candy machines at your location gives all the profits away to a charity? Bet they don't - someone or business is making a profit. Where are all of those profits going? I bet there is a group similar to the USNA's at your location.

May the truth set you free (it sucks when the real story ruins your efforts to make people look like shit doesn't it?)

TH

DICKHEAD... I know where the Monies came from, and I know how their distributed, but the bottom line is this, they came from vending machines owned by a SCAB Company, and you union members benifited from that Company.

So as good loyal union members, you should have given the money back, or donated it to a Charity, not profited from monies that was donated via a "SCAB" outfit.

But if you want to take money from a "SCAB" Company that is not affiliated with an Organized union, than go ahead be a "SCAB" also.

P.S.
Nobody has answered me this yet, did CBD get their cut of the Pay-out. They are part of your Division, are they not.

[FireFactory]

what is the true definition of a "scab"?

I think it is funny that you love to complain and have negative things to say about a union that has some really good people who are trying to make the region a better place.
They are not perfect, but are doing thier best to make it fair for everyone.
My question to you is very simple....

What would you do differently or could you do differently as opposed to the union's efforts? Or, are you just one of "those" who loves to bitch and complain with no solution in mind? It seems to me that you are disgruntle and not a team player. You also love to cause conflicts between people to make things worse. Are you a true brother firefighter? I think not, you seem like a t-shirt wearing, paycheck firefighter who could care less about his or her co-workers and the people we try to serve!
It you don't like what the union is doing, attend the meetings...( oops that would require having a set of nuts). Another option would be to drop out of the union and not have any worries about what we do.
I have been in a few departments, and 121 is by far the best equipped with individuals who honestly give a shit!
Lastly, who really gives a shit about the money from the vending or soda machines? Is it that big of a deal? If so, I recommend that you get some professional help so that you can mentally be competant for your job.

P.S. CBD did get thier share

Don't be a hater....Be a motivator!!!


J.W.O.

[Chief46]

DICKHEAD... bottom line is this, they came from vending machines owned by a SCAB Company, and you union members benifited from that Company.

P.S.
Nobody has answered me this yet, did CBD get their cut of the Pay-out. They are part of your Division, are they not.

The entire Naval Academy benefited from the employees using the machines that generated a profit, that was in turn, returned to the employees. So YES our union members and non-union members did benefit from the purchases they made in the machines.

I asked our CERA rep if CBD received any CERA funds and he replied "Yes, since they have come under the USNA CBD has been treated equal to everyone at the USNA."

Done Deal! Now move on and bitch about something else (because I know it is coming)

[Outsider]

And your point is......

[pgtick20]

Hey Jackass, How in the fuck are we benefitting from the SCAB company? We are merely getting our own money back you fucking idiot. If we put money into the machine and then get that money back use how in the hell is that "SCAB money"? Use your brain for once you fuck head. And if you wanna be honest. Who cares if CBD gets money? If their machines are serviced by the same company, then so be it. If they arent, then why should they get a cut. Either way I dont know nor care to know if they get a cut.

Again, I would love for you to take 5 mins out of your day and call me sometime but we know pussies never make those kind of calls from the Watch Desk.

BTW if youre implying that any company who is non-union is a SCAB company. Do me a favor and let me know where you get your oil changed? Who cuts your grass? Or any of the other services you recieve and let me know how many of those people or union.

TJ

[Outsider]

Hey Jackass, How in the fuck are we benefitting from the SCAB company? We are merely getting our own money back you fucking idiot. If we put money into the machine and then get that money back use how in the hell is that "SCAB money"? Use your brain for once you fuck head. And if you wanna be honest. Who cares if CBD gets money? If their machines are serviced by the same company, then so be it. If they arent, then why should they get a cut. Either way I dont know nor care to know if they get a cut.

Again, I would love for you to take 5 mins out of your day and call me sometime but we know pussies never make those kind of calls from the Watch Desk.

BTW if youre implying that any company who is non-union is a SCAB company. Do me a favor and let me know where you get your oil changed? Who cuts your grass? Or any of the other services you recieve and let me know how many of those people or union.

TJ

So pgtick20, you just proved my point "LOSER", you support a SCAB Company, you as a "so called" loyal union member shouldn't even use that machine in the Station, but you will, you'll keep using it, because your to lazy to buy Soda's made by a union company and keep them with you.

If the local had any pride, and believed in what a union stands for, they would have the machines pulled.

and P.S.
I change my own oil, and cut my own grass you, Thank You very much.

[Chief46]

If the local had any pride, and believed in what a union stands for, they would have the machines pulled.


You are right, the local should have all the machines pulled starting with your station! Where is that so they can get the truck on the way?

I bet that would go over like a fart in church - obvisouly you don't speak for anyone of your co-workers!

TH

[Outsider]

You are right, the local should have all the machines pulled starting with your station! Where is that so they can get the truck on the way?

I bet that would go over like a fart in church - obvisouly you don't speak for anyone of your co-workers!

TH

No I don't speak for everyone at my Station or in the Command, but what I'm not is a "Hypocrite" like you, and a majority of the so called "Loyal union Members" that think this union/local is so great, and believe they are such good little union members.

A real union/local member won't buy clothing that was made in a non-union sweatshop, a real union/local member wouldn't buy a product that was sold by a "SCAB" outfit that has a vending machine in their place of employment, a real union/local member wouldn't buy/support a product that wasn't "MADE IN AMERICA"

How many of you so called "union Members" can truthfully say this?

[pgtick20]

First off, no one has ever said I was a "loyal union member". I am a card carrying union member and a member of a volunteer fire company in a union county hence my screen name. As are alot of members of our department and across the nation. I am one of those that the union will not tell me what I can and cant do. I pay the union my dues to represent me (yes I know they have to anyways blah blah blah). If you really wanna know I dont agree with alot of things the union does but I voice my opinions when I feel it needed to those persons who need to hear it. You should try the same thing at some point in life instead of hiding on here.

TJ

[Watch_Dog]

Hence pgtick20, your a "SCAB", and should be thrown-out of the local. But you won't be, because this local loves taking you money, and not using it to benifet the members, when's the last time this Local has done anything for us.

Hell, I would love one of those windshirts, ya think it might bankrupt the Local, if they bought us all one.

[Tk_3_Barman]

Hence pgtick20, your a "SCAB", and should be thrown-out of the local. But you won't be, because this local loves taking you money, and not using it to benifet the members, when's the last time this Local has done anything for us.

Hell, I would love one of those windshirts, ya think it might bankrupt the Local, if they bought us all one.

I normally try and stay out of the fed guys stuff, but you’re wrong. Unless he actually crosses a picket line he is not a SCAB.

A SCAB is someone who will work while others wont (non union member might I add) and jeopardize their (union employee) future employment with said company while protesting their work conditions for less money and no benefits.

Also Outsider, I doubt your home that you live in was 100% union made. There is electricians, plumbers, carpenters, brick/block layers, roofers, etc. that I bet worked on your house that was not in a union. Might want to find a nice cardboard box to live in (union made of course) so you are not such a hypocrite.

Just a few points for you to ponder.

Hey TJ be careful out there brother.

Brian M.

[John Roberts]

I think the point is, as we seem to have gotten away from ......As President of F-260, dinner was paid for the shift on duty on Thanksgiving and Christmas. That stopped at regionalization of one union when F-260 failed to exist any longer.

[chief2]

((FRED)) Give them hell!!!. lol

[Chief46]

Droopy, Sounds like you are bitter that you aren't the leader anymore. I am sure it would be better with you as a leader - oh, that's right! Your membership failed to elect you to a position. Democracy works!

[Outsider]

But he speaks the truth, Dork46