Malibu, wildfires plague fire personel

[grumpier old man]

CNN is now live reporting multiple fires in the valleys and areas north of Malibu,Calf. More then 400 personel,supported by helos, and soon they expect to see fixed wing aircraft.

Other countys as well are reporting incidents as this is posted...

The Santa Anna winds in full force is creating a huge headache for every one.

Use WWW.CNN.COM for latest reports.

One can only hope those involved will remain safe,and can gain control.

[grumpier old man]

New reports now indicating more then 500+ acres are involved with ZERO percent containment. The PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) is closed in the area.

Reports that a power line may have dropped and touched off this incident.

Again the real issue is the winds, sparks and embers are blown around starting other fires. Pepperdine U has been partially evacuated,students sent to a protected area.

Some homes in the coast near Zuma beach are at risk.

Winds are deminishing now,and personel hope to get control before evening winds pick back up.

[grumpier old man]

In the last 15 mins CNN has reported that more then 1000 acres are in play. The approx. time of start was placed about 8a this morning.

Air Quality concerns have those reporting wearing sun glasses, and not standing in wind as particles of dust are thick.

Helos and fixed wing aircraft are using the Pacific Ocean as a water source,as well as other locations.

[grumpier old man]

CBS filed this report..

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_294103528.html

[grumpier old man]

This morning the report is up to 1200 acres,and to keep the issue prespective other fires now are being discussed. and now one fatality.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_294103528.html

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another report.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_295010422.html

Arnold declares "State of Emergency"..

[grumpier old man]

WWW.CNN.COM held a news conference this am. note there are serveral videos on this page..

Select any video and location the DES news conference video from the right side of the player area.

San Diego County also is listed as having major issues. some fires are burning un worked,evac centers are noted, cell phone communication is requested to be limited.

[grumpier old man]

posted images of threatening California wildfires - from CNN.com

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/22/irpt.california.fires/index.html

[grumpier old man]

At 4p, WWW.CNN.com, is reporting the following.

More then 12 fires covering 7 countys,now declared a disaster by the GOV. with some 250,000 people evacuated from areas involved.

Some time after 4p, the Gov is to hold a news conference.

Some Fire Officers have stated assets are not enough, as now air units can not be used. Today reported one death and some 20 injuries including fire personel.

[grumpier old man]

Some losses values have been set at $50 million, some one better get out a bigger calculator since homes in the Malibu coast areas can cost $10 mill each.. a personal estimate....1+ BILLION dollars.

[grumpier old man]

Another area Lake Arrowhead, has been especially devistated as homes burn.

WOULD A MOD PLEASE CHANGE THE TITLE TO SOME THING LIKE "SOUTHERN CALIF. WILDFIRE CONFLAGUATION."

http://www.cbs2.com/video/?id=50961@kcbs.dayport.com

Coverage now saying MORE THEN 62 square miles (40k acres) have been effected.


update :

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_295010422.html

this next one has some startleing news.


http://www.cbs2.com/video/?id=50960@kcbs.dayport.com

[Chia6004]

This is the worst time of the year for me. I miss fighting fire soooo bad and the smell of it makes this even worse. Maybe I made a mistake, how I'm feeling right now is astounding.

[grumpier old man]

At, 900p. CNN has called this offically a FIRESTORM. Some 200,000 acres across S CAL has been char'd. I may have to amend my earlier est. of loss.

[Chia6004]

LOL. I hate that term firestorm. There's only been five instances in history that could actually be called firestorms and these are not them. The last one was the Big Burn and that was almost 100 years ago. I love when the media uses terms that they have no idea what they actually mean.

[grumpier old man]

AH, yes the Big one in 1906. one has to wonder if the 1989 was lucky enough NOT to be #2. With the area the city built in the north shore.

[grumpier old man]

Latest info as of 1p pacific time.


http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...age&id=3654457

[grumpier old man]

Day 4, the following reported from KCAL.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_297093705.html

Another report..

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_297081643.html

[FFRoger]

Does CAL have a system for firefighters from other states that want to help out? Would they like pay for a plane ticket/working on the fire?

[grumpier old man]

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_297081506.html

Have a un confirmed report of a arson suspect killed by local authority,can any one confirm this.

[Chia6004]

Does CAL have a system for firefighters from other states that want to help out? Would they like pay for a plane ticket/working on the fire?


The state will make a request through ICS and there's a slight potential you might get requested, other than that there's no other way. And the ones we request are generally wildland firefighters from outta state. We're not gonna bring east coast firefighers out here, especially if they're not trained in even basic wildland suppresion as they just tend to get in the way.

[grumpier old man]

Toll now to 6, link below...

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_298035430.html


Confirmed last post..


http://cbs3.com/topstories/Southern.California.wildfires.2.411959.html


"In San Bernardino County, a man suspected of starting a small fire was arrested and another man was shot to death by police after he fled officers who approached to see if he might be trying to set a fire. "

[FFRoger]

I figured that I would need a wildland suppression certification, thanks for the info.

[grumpier old man]

Nice site to compare from USGS.

http://nhss.cr.usgs.gov/

[grumpier old man]

5p. Toll rises to 8 ,these two should never have happened..

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_298035430.html,

Sonny came callin'

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=27952@kpix.dayport.com

Grim note: IS TEXAS NEXT ?

http://cbs11tv.com/topstories/local_story_298154337.html

[grumpier old man]

Some stats in local paper.

http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/269250.html

[grumpier old man]

as time goes by.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_301103354.html

[grumpier old man]

Is the LULL over...



http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_302091115.html

[grumpier old man]

As the investigation continues..

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_303223216.html

[grumpier old man]

Are they ready for the NEXT round...


http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_306232815.html

[Chia6004]

And nothing happened today. lol

[grumpier old man]

another area marking 'control'...slow process..arguous and methodical...


http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_308171551.html