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HOOKMAN
12-16-2010, 04:29 PM
Congratulations Chief Ellerbe and welcome back.....its time for change and a boost of morale.....Good bye cronyism, corruption and Chief Coward....

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/gray-keeps-lanier-as-dc-police-chief-121610

EMS Only
12-16-2010, 05:36 PM
This is not going to be pretty. The king of the vendeta transfer's, anyone that has pissed him off over the years can look forward to useless transfers. He has been known to remove people from the squad and replace them with lesser trained people just because they made him mad. Get ready, he is probably a very close and long time friend of Mayor Elect Gray so you know what that can be like. It looks like Sarasota wins in this round.

Truth
12-16-2010, 07:05 PM
Congratulations Chief Ellerbe and welcome back.....its time for change and a boost of morale.....Good bye cronyism, corruption and Chief Coward....

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/gray-keeps-lanier-as-dc-police-chief-121610Well atleast you are batting 1.000....wrong on all accounts.

EMS Only
12-16-2010, 07:18 PM
There will be no boost of morale, it will probably sink yet again, he has his favorites so that will also come into play. As far as corruption goes, who knows.

HOOKMAN
12-16-2010, 07:40 PM
After reading the 9000 comments about Chief Ellerbe on Statter911, most which were negative and had to do with him collecting his DC retirement while still on the job as Chief in Sarasota. I believe Chief Ellerbe put all that to rest a while back when he wrote about what actually took place. However, In the time I had on the job prior to my termination, as well as after, I've learned a few things about the DC Fire Department.

I know its customary in the FD to talk about everyone, but the biggest thing I've learned in the FD centers around rumors and the stories that derive from those rumors. If told by the right person they most certainly have to be credible, therefore, the average follower who knows nothing about that person or persons, immediately thinks its their code of honor to go spread this rumor and before long, the entire department has 20 different versions of the original rumor swirling around town.

Throughout the past few years, Ive gotten a first hand look at what the Rubin Adminsitration has done to this department, seen documents falsified by these people, had access to things most will never see, met with people behind closed doors most would not have the oppurtunity to meet and then some. This has given me more knowledge about who these cowards really are then I cared to know. With that said, I've tried whenever writing on here or somewhere else, to back what I say, with substance and factual information. Given this day and age where people who blog on different forums, can be subject to a defamation or libel suit, I carefully back my sources up with as much credible information as I possibly can. I've been wrong a few times and have admitted such, but most of the time I'm right on target.

On top of the above mentioned, I've learned that if this or that happened, go to the source or at the very least, get to know that person. I'm the type of person who doesn't form an opinion on who said what to me about this or that person and tend to give everyone a clean slate no matter what.
I too heard this and that early on when someone mentioned Chief Ellerbe's name and I too early on tended to believe what some of the professional rumor starters said to me about this man and others. I mean how can they be wrong with all the time they had on the job.:rolleyes: Maybe some of the stuff was true, but it was before my time and most importantly, I'd never met the man. Who would I be to go spread rumors whether true or false about someone I didn't know.

Well I wouldn't say Ive gotten to know Chief Ellerbe and everything about his personal life, but through my own situation, I've gotten to know him and over the past few years I can honestly say, I respect him and I trust him. Whether one thinks Vincent Gray and Chief Ellerbe grew up together or whatever your take is, they both have the same beliefs when it comes to City Government. Vincent Gray based his campaign on transparency and fairness, as Fenty's administration was one of cronyism and corruption. Say what you want, but I firmly believe Chief Ellerbe is ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND FAIRNESS ACROSS THE BOARD.....

Chief Ellerbe has seen alot go on in this department and whether or not people don't like him, I believe he has the oppurtunity to make things right for all. Will he make mistakes, I'm sure he will, but I believe he will own up to them and right the wrong he may have done. With the Rubin administration, whenever their was a negative story about something, it was Rubin's goal to be less than truthful, rather than owning up to being wrong or to put his PIO in front of the camera and have him lie for Rubin. I don't think you will see this take place in the new administration. I think you will also see accountability, due process for those at Trial Boards, A FAIR AND HONEST INTERNAL AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT, a chief at work, and overall a better morale in the department to name a few.

Vincent Gray has already announced DC Government employees will have to take a 4 day furlough each year, but the police and fire department are exempt from that. I'm sure there will be budget cuts throughout all agencies, but I don't think Publice Safety will be put at risk. I'd hold off on the rumor mill of firehouses closing etc..... If there are cuts in the departments budget, don't blame Chief Ellerbe for the actions he might have to take, blame Rubin who spent as if he had an empty checkbook and created worthless positions that were created to make him look better.

EMS ONLY.....you may be right or you maybe wrong, but I think each Chief who's come in, has pissed someone off, transferred people who didn't want to be etc......When Rubin first arrived, one of his first official duties was to terminate FF Simba just like that and he wasn't even here when the Rosebaum incident took place. No need to go into detail, but after that, it went down hill real fast and for the next 4 years, if you weren't good enough to be apart of Larry Schultz's little boys club, then you were subjected to almost anything under this shitbird. Brian Lee, well what can you say about this lyin ass ZERO of a coward....Out of the 3 cowards, he had to be the most useless and most laughed at.....Right Boo;)....I'm sure there will be things the followers of Larry Douchebag don't like, but guess what, YOU CHOSE TO FOLLOW THAT SCUMBAG.....YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

I'd say to everyone, whether you like the choice for Fire Chief or not, give this man at the very least a chance, he deserves that much. If you have something negative to say about him, back it up with credible information, rather than a rumor filled diatribe of what he was said to have done. And if he does come in and make moves, I'm more than sure he will have done it for good reason and not with venegeance. Remember one thing, the Rubin Administration F'ed him, BUT HE DID NOT DRINK THE KOOL AID, therefore walked away quietly. Now what better situation for him to be in now.....If I'm wrong about this, I'll be the first one on here to run my trap, but I can say with great confidence, I can go back to my 3rd grade mentality of posting, rather than focusing on the outgoing 3 COWARDS.....GOOD LUCK CHIEF ELLERBE

HOOKMAN
12-16-2010, 07:42 PM
TRUTH....here you go again.......explain to the viewers on here why I am or could be wrong.....The forum is all yours......

kyser sose
12-16-2010, 08:01 PM
This is not going to be pretty. The king of the vendeta transfer's, anyone that has pissed him off over the years can look forward to useless transfers. He has been known to remove people from the squad and replace them with lesser trained people just because they made him mad. Get ready, he is probably a very close and long time friend of Mayor Elect Gray so you know what that can be like. It looks like Sarasota wins in this round.

Ummmmm................. have you been paying attention to what's been going on for the past 4 years?

Truth
12-16-2010, 09:15 PM
TRUTH....here you go again.......explain to the viewers on here why I am or could be wrong.....The forum is all yours......
I hope this play works out for you Hook, but I wouldn't count on it. Gray had a chance to bring in someone with no baggage and someone that could make a difference. But no. Now we have another Chief who has a history here and bad feelings toward some and favorites of others. Just gonna be more of the same bullshit that is common in this city. Good luck, I hope this hand works out for you.

HOOKMAN
12-16-2010, 10:43 PM
Truth......I'm all for serious discussion about this as we all have our opinions. Though some choose to stand on the sidelines and watch, I don't. I stated my opinion, but also left room for if this doesn't work out. My belief from what I know, says it will and I think people will be surprised. Is this the answer or easy fix for everything? I don't know, but I'm not sure since your so vague in your responses, who would've been a better fit for Chief.

I can't tell you whether this hand will work out for me, as I'm not much of a card player, however, I'll remain positive about the new chief until someone can prove me wrong. I look at this as an oppurtunity for a fresh start and if I'm able to comeback because of this, then so be it. As for now, I remain at home and unemployed....

Truth
12-16-2010, 10:58 PM
Truth......I'm all for serious discussion about this as we all have our opinions. Though some choose to stand on the sidelines and watch, I don't. I stated my opinion, but also left room for if this doesn't work out. My belief from what I know, says it will and I think people will be surprised. Is this the answer or easy fix for everything? I don't know, but I'm not sure since your so vague in your responses, who would've been a better fit for Chief.

I can't tell you whether this hand will work out for me, as I'm not much of a card player, however, I'll remain positive about the new chief until someone can prove me wrong. I look at this as an oppurtunity for a fresh start and if I'm able to comeback because of this, then so be it. As for now, I remain at home and unemployed....Hook, how is this a fresh start? This man was already shown in the past to be vindictive. And now he is bringing his baggage back to DC. It isn't a fresh start, it's a step back. I hope I am wrong, but history has a way of repeating itself....

HOOKMAN
12-16-2010, 11:12 PM
Ok...I'm not saying he was or wasn't vindictive, just provide in detail on how he was vindictive rather than just saying he was vindictive. And who was the fire chief that was left out in the cold? You still haven't answered that....I'll agree and disagree with anyone, just put the facts or proof on the table...Just saying someone is this or that doesn't cut it...I've been through too much and know too much to buy into that game.....If your gonna say something to me or in general, back it up with something that's all.

Brks_R_4_Puz's
12-17-2010, 12:25 AM
Well, Happy to see you back Chief Ellerbe! Hope you can straighten this mess out.

I'm with you on this one Hook, people need to give FACTS about a person before they go off of what someone that may not like a person told them. Did you ever think of how they (the old crew) mite have really F'ed over the Chief while he was here? Guess what, he doesn't have to do a thing to get back at anyone, just them thinking that he's gonna get them, they're either gonna sweat this ride out or leave. Which those that knew they did him rong are leaving anyway. If you just come in here and do your JOBS, you will be ok. But if you think you gonna come in here and treat this like romper-room then I'll tell you YES! you have another thing coming. So either respect The Chief and come to WORK and do the Job they PAY you to do or QUIT! There are plenty of people on the list just aiting for your spot that can careless who the Chief is as long as the Checks keep rolling in for there family.

Guess what TRUTH, theres no need to feel upset cause someones finally gonna right a ship that has been wrong for years (not just the past 4). So Yes, Make some changes to give others a shot.

kenzin
12-17-2010, 02:15 AM
OK, everybody, relax. Most of you from DCFEMS know who I am because I identified myself long ago. I don't hide behind my screen name. I can say this; there will be some changes. I'm going on record now so that if what I promise doesn't happen, any of you can feel free to call me out on it. The changes that I can guarantee will be: transparency-we will operate out in the open for all to see and agree with or criticize freely; fairness-everyone will be treated fairly and anyone who doesn't think that they can treat people fairly should be looking for another place of employment; accountability-everyone must be accountable, especially me. We will all be operating under a microscope and it's part of my job to ensure that we do our jobs effectively and efficiently. I can't do that without the full cooperation of every member. I don't expect people to go blindly into the future. You have the right to question (as long as it isn't in a life or death situation) and you have the right to criticize if you feel that bad decisions are made. Offering criticism or alternative solutions to challenges should not, and will not result in retaliatory responses.

I will not respond to, or participate in rumors, slanderous conversations or silliness. I have no intention of being 'baited' into any confrontational posts, nor do I take a lot of this stuff too seriously. This is a place where people 'vent', cheer or blow off steam, so have at it.

For those who would comfortably and anonymously post, feel free as well.

Regarding vindictiveness, be careful about making assumptions or accepting someone else's version of the truth. First, let's define vindictive..."disposed or inclined to revenge." Revenge would imply that someone was trying to get even with someone else for a previous offense. In order to be vindictive, a person has to be harmed, or perceive that they have been harmed. Only one person that I know of has tried to harm me, and the truth is, they have to live with that, not me. I wasn't injured and actually came out OK, regardless of the lies that were told, the character assasination that occurred and the mean-spirited actions that were taken. There may be others who may mean to do me harm, but they hide in the shadows and we don't have time to go peeking around corners and looking over our shoulders, stalking ghosts. We have work to do and there is plenty to go around. WE have a charge to make this department a model for everyone to marvel at with no time to waste. It is my hope that we will all move forward without so much as a backward glance at the minor insults that we might have endured and decide one and all to make the people we represent and serve proud, safe, and comfortable in knowing that if they call, we'll be there to serve and protect.

I won't be doing a lot of posting but I am hopeful that we will all get along, reduce the bickering for all the world to see and make the people who know that you work here happy to say that my friend or family member works for DCFEMS.

Truth
12-17-2010, 05:30 AM
As I said Chief, I hope I am wrong in my opinion. Either way, congrats on coming back. You definiatley have some challenges ahead.

kenzin
12-17-2010, 12:58 PM
Truth,
You entitled to your opinion, which I differ with considerably, but it's your opinion. Maybe, in time, your opinion will change. Keep a watchful eye, as many will do. I think that you will be pleasantly surprised. Take care.

HOOKMAN
12-17-2010, 01:12 PM
Truth, I think every Chief has challenges whenever they take the helm. This isn't any different than when President Obama took office. Whether your a fan of Obama or not, he too had many challenges that he still deals with today which were left for him by the previous President.

One other thing I find ironic is the people who say so in so is retiring because of the new administration coming in. I think with every new chief, a large group make an exodus calling it a career. Now whether this is due to the new administration or just calling it a career, who knows. I'd say if a person or persons openly state they're retiring because Chief Ellerbe or whomever is replacing Chief Rubin, then that would say a whole lot about that person. I guess that would mean it was ok to work under Sir Lawrence, but not anyone else....Let's hope not.......

regs1
12-17-2010, 05:31 PM
Kenzin;

Welcome back, I thought you were enjoying sunny Fla.

Basically I know you heart is with the city, and you still love the DCFD, but why do you really wish to come back to a mess. Some things here have not changed since you "retired", but I wish all the luck you can muster.

Some of the biggest challenges will deal with the new FD budget. With the city one foot into the no money hole, the FD budget will take a hit, some cuts will be made and because some favorite programs will be eliminated, and yes some people might even be RIF, everything you do might be considered “payback”. But everyone should know that the FD blown budget is not yours, you will be cleaning up a mess that was left.

In my last years in the DCFD, I gotten to know you, and believe it or not, you are one of the most misunderstood people I know. One aspect I can share with everyone is that you do take the time to look at all aspects, and really try to treat people fairly; however I also known you have your moments.

In this case a Chinese proverb comes to mind “may you live in interesting times”, I hope this means good will, but remember all Chinese proverbs also contain a curse part.

The only item I do request is to change the name back to DCFD from DCFEMS, it looks better on letterheads.

Regs1

HOOKwoMAN
12-17-2010, 11:19 PM
Congratulations Chief Ellerbe and welcome back.....its time for change and a boost of morale.....Good bye cronyism, corruption and Chief Coward....

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/gray-keeps-lanier-as-dc-police-chief-121610

How many years did you work with Mr Elllerbe? I'm sorry but is morale down in the department? And we had a coward chief? Where? And corrupt? Really? Quite an attack on the man's character... Were you here 22 years ago when Alfred was chief? No? What the fuck do you know about low morale? or anything?

HEY HOOKMAN...YOU WERE FIRED - WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?

MANY people in this department find the current chief excellent in his role. Especially those that went through the leadership hell of the 80's and early 90's. You want to see some shit-bag firechiefs? Dennis is a GOD compared to what has been here through the years. Yes, some peeps are pissed about the ambulance and paramedics. So what. This is the best job on the earth. And we firemen get bored of your bullshit and putting down our department all the time for your own gain.

Under Dennis we have the best technology and appararatus and gear in the history of this department. (Granted OUC sucks) We have moved forward more in 4 years than I have ever seen since 1988. I will miss Dennis- as will many others here. We all know he did a very good job. It's just easier to fall victim to your rants and sensless comments than it is to stand up for the man. I salute you Dennis- I wish you well no matter where you go next and hope you don't ever have another cry-baby nemesis like HOOKMAN.

Frankly Im surprised the chief hasn't sued you for slander. However as long as you continue to run your mouth about him its just more fuel for the fire. He could destroy you in court for all your slanderous rants. Is it true you hacked his email? There is a pretty stong case in IA about it....Just wait.

All i see is you sucking Ellerbe's ass in hopes of getting rehired. Why don't you tell everyone on here why you were fired and let them come to their own conclusions, instead of making people think it was for speaking in front of council. My fellow top steps, some of whom were on your t.b. know the truth- so be sure to also include anthing that may relate to your military service and job applications. Who was it you got into a fight with on duty? One of the most gentle, humble, kindest officers to ever come on this department? Was it your 'roid-rage that caused you to not see how immature your actions were (and are?) Or was it fear of a piss test? Or failure to rfd??

When the new chief arrives I'll be working right alongside him- once again. I know him fairly well from back step to BFC. He is no dummy, and certainly sees through your bullshit, suck-ass attempt at coming back to work, and Im sure Chief Ellerbe knows what to expect from you.

Now go ahead and start attacking this post with comments about penises and homosexuality but realize you will never mature and move on as long as you keep posting your stupid shit on here. A word of advice? Take all that energy and apply to your next career and try your hardest to do better next time.



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crabby1
12-18-2010, 05:46 AM
Game, set, match !!!

fd141
12-18-2010, 06:34 AM
Game, set, match !!!

Actually it isn't. You CANNOT award a win to a NO BALLS or PMS'ing,I'm AFRAID to say who I am poster.

Now a bit of informative reading.....

Hook may not be the most PC poster,but at least he puts facts out for people,who normally wouldn't know about them.

Where/when does Hook put down FDDC?


To sue for slander,it needs to be false statements. THAT IS WHY,as you refer to him,"god", hasn't sued.


The best of apparatus & gear!! What choice was there? They were NEEDED purchases to stay up~to~date.It just happened to be purchased under the rube's watch.

Maybe Hook can sue you,hookgirl, for slander after your comments about him....Just wait!

I suggest that you follow Denise,where it seems YOU would be much happier.

Ya just never know!!!

HOOKMAN
12-18-2010, 09:19 AM
Hold on a second.....BRB...I have to gather my thoughts on HOOKwoMAN, then take my daily dose of HGH....If I have time I might hack into the computers at World Bank...:D

HOOKMAN
12-18-2010, 11:23 AM
HOOKwoMAN

Whether your first post was written while in timeout because of your recent temper tantrum or you had a wet diaper, however, I'm always amazed and honored when people not only create a screen name, but create one so they can talk to me in their first post.:) I get emotional when things like this happen.

First off, it doesn't matter HOW MANY YEARS I was on the job compared to HOW MANY YEARS you've been on, to know Chief Ellerbe or any other person.
While Chief Ellerbe was a DFC here before he left for Sarasota, I don't recall IN MY TIME I HAD ON THE DCFEMS Department, any instances where he brought my morale to a low point. I've let my feelings beknown about Dennis Rubin and company, so no need for me to re-type why HE AND HIS CRONIES HAVE BROUGHT THE MORALE TO A LOW POINT in the history of the Department. I'm sure there has been low points before my time in the department, but I speak from my experiences ONLY. I can assure you, if you think Dennis Rubin is the great leader you have stated he is, you must be in the 1% of people who think so.:rolleyes: I bet you have a Rube's bobble head and each time you head off to the Nations Capital you salute it and I'm sure bob his cranium.

Why am I here.....because I have a laptop:)

If all you can say about your hero is that we have better gear and apparatus because of your hero, I'd say you better dig some more. As Fd141 stated, this was in place prior to your hero's arrival. Remember 9/11 and the money received from it? With those funds, it was the department that was able to purchase apparatus and gear that they had not seen before. For some reason, I don't recall your hero being here during that time or anytime soon after.


Now precious, I realize your upset with me and this caused you to get fussy, which then lead to you having a full blown tantrum, but let me tell you a little bit about slander before you wet another diaper ok....

"Defamtion of character", is spoken or written words that falsely and negatively reflect on a living person's reputation. "Slander" is spoken defamtion and "Libel" is written defamation. Seeing that Dennis Rubin is a public figure, he is subject to ridicule and all other forms critisism. Considering Denise's monthly touring around the country, I highly doubt I have damaged his reputation. If his reputation is or will be damaged, he will have brought that on himself.

Now since you seem to be so fascinated with me and everything you've felt compelled to tell everyone, let me tell you how one brings a "libel suit" against an individual. It's real simple so stay with me ok.

1. you create an anonymous screen name like HOOKwoMAN
2. you created that name specifically to speak to me.
3. you know who I am even though I have an anonymous screen name
4. you defame my name by writing things about me in a public forum such as thewatchdesk.
5. I contact the Phantom to get your IP address off your computer.
6. If Phantom doesn't provide that information, I hire an attorney
7. that attorney goes to court to subpoena Phantom to release the information I was unable to obtain.
8. once Phantom complies and your name is known...GUESS WHAT HOMIE...HOOKMAN NOT ONLY HAS A $21 million civil suit in federal court, but also has a civil suit for libel AGAINST HOOKwoMAN....:eek::eek:

So do me a favor since I'm more than comftorable with what I say about Chief Shitbird, you continue to defame my name on here and you might find yourself named in a libel suit. However, I'm sure you knew this before you spoke to your pals on my Trial Board to get the most complete and most accurate information as possible, right boo boo.
And I was given a complete fair and equitable Trial Board, as well asdue process was given to me at my Trial Board, especially after my attorney asked to have a certain righthand person of Schultz removed and was denied. In my OEA appeal, they denied doing so...Hmmm, the email confirmation between my attorney and the department states different. Im sure you knew that too...right boo boo....;)

Probably the most hilarious part of your tantrum was saying I "hacked Dennis Rubin's email account".....I honestly have to say your dumber than the days long.....It took me a year just to learn how to copy and paste and now I'm a professional hacker...lol.....

Since its quite obvious you KNOW SQUAT ABOUT ME, because if you did, you would know I DON'T KISS ANYONE's ASS. Whether it be Chief Ellerbe or anyone else, I'm not a suck ass. I respect and trust Chief Ellerbe from the amount of time I've gotten to know him and not from the rumor mill of 20 years ago. However I will say this.....Chief Ellerbe did not drink the kool aid, therefore, was not treated well by this outgoing administration. About a year and half ago because of my testimony and the events thereafter and up to my termination, I got to know Chief Ellerbe (DFC at the time). Ever since,I kept him aprised of my situation and sought ought his advise on many occasions. I didn't befriend Chief Ellerbe a week ago, find out he was going to be the new fire chief and beg him to take me back.

I believe Chief Ellerbe is going to come in and right the wrongs that Dennis Rubin and his 2 AFC's left behind. If part of this means people who were treated unfairly, whether given suspensions or terminated, are brought back, then that is a decision Chief Ellerbe will decide without influence from me or anyone else. Do you think once Chief Ellerbe takes office, I'm going to stand outside Vermont Ave with a sign and bullhorn pleading, take me back, take me back. Chief Ellerbel knows the DC Code, the DPM etc., and I'm 100% sure he won't do anything that he isn't empowered to do without Mayor elect Gray's authority.

With that said, the only truth to your post was about my maturity level. I've openly admitted to always writing to a 3rd grade mentality, so to tell me ill never mature is quite a compliment. As far as your nasty talk of cranks and sexual preferences, ill leave that for you to indulge in.....Merry Christmas and Have a Happy New Year.....Best Regards, HOOKMAN:cool:

regs1
12-18-2010, 01:04 PM
First hookman, loosen up your underwear, You need to lighten up, what HOOK woMAN wrote is about the same thing you have written about other, so basically what goes around come around.

This is to HOOK woMAN , I am not one of the short timers, the Fire Chief when I was appoint was Chief Burton. Yea it’s a little while ago, and have seen chiefs come and go. The Biggest change and moral going down hill was about the time frame of Chief Few. That was a person who over his head from day one, The shit moral continued with Chief Thompson and his administration, and went on with Chief Rubin.

You bring up some points; First of which how the department is moving forward? Except for the technology part, and if part, and if you every went to the National Fire Academy, you will actually see how backwards we really are in this field.

EMS has not really improved, the assigning member to a ems unit assigned to your station only really resulted in the same member riding the unit most of the time.

Equipment, how is he fire chief really involved in this, last time I look, Apparatus selection was done by a committee, how do we give him credit. It takes 2-3 years for apparatus ordered t be delivered. So if you can say rubin was responsible, the apparatus we see today was ordered when he first was appointed.

Rubin was responsible for expanding the number of chief officers, that budget is way over. I have not looked at the FTE’s but a lot of positions were made up, this will have some interesting events come budget crunch time.

The Rubin administration is responsible for one item, the dividing up of membership. If you look at, who was appointed chiefs, many of these people were direct friends of the AFC’s one way or another, If you challenged the mighty Larry, Brian, of even Al, watch out, you find yourself assigned somewhere, just asked a retired DFC that used to worked at the T.A. before being assigned an empty office.

Rubin, like other fire chiefs will be judged by their peers, so far the city administration seems to have their own ideas of how much of a “god” fire chief, it looks like he has zero say.

So a new chapter now begins, Ellerbe will take the helm, some people will be upset, their world will no longer be the same, other will rejoice.
Hookman will be on Vermont Ave with his sign.

And yes I was around when Ellerbe was acting Chief, and yes I was on that famous transfer list, but yet again I was also was on a Rubin Fuck you transfer list.

HOOKMAN
12-18-2010, 01:52 PM
regs....are you wasting away in Margaritaville, if so, you should be arrested for TUI (typing under the influence). I'm kinda taken back by you telling me, what goes around comes around? Your post gives me the impression that HOOKwoMAN's 1 post to me was long overdue..I wrote to her as I would to anyone else on here, so I don't see how that post was anything other than a post written by an individual who's pulse was riveting out of control because I welcomed Chief Ellerbe and the fact she doesn't care for me. I don't post anything about Rubin on here without factual information, which differs a whole heck of a lot from a disillusional person who wants to say false things about me. If that propels you to say what goes around comes around, I suggest you learn the difference between the truth and libel. BTW, I don't wear underwear.


:)

regs1
12-18-2010, 02:37 PM
Hook:

I am not talking about your posts about Rubin, or even the AFC'S, but in the past you have posted against other members, and even firefighters, that is what I talking about.

In the last couple posts, you have impressed me, and probably others, but that is a whole other topic for discussion,

I am not going to get into endless debate here about this topic

Let's just leave it with: opinions are like assholes, some are just bigger than others.

HOOKMAN
12-18-2010, 04:28 PM
regs....understood sir...though some believe I post with a pulse above 100, it never rises above 40 on here. I thought you might have been at a Christmas party and found a computer because I've never seen you cuss on thewatchdesk...alls good, now back to your regularly scheduled program...

Truth
12-18-2010, 09:53 PM
Hook and Regs,
Seeing as how neither of you have spent much time in the Firehouse lately I'll let you in on alittle secret....other than the few whiners on here, most guys in the firehouses like Rubin. His Asst's are a different matter. But of all the firehouses I've worked at in the past year I would say the concensus would be he is OK. Flame away fellas......

HOOKMAN
12-18-2010, 10:31 PM
Truth....I have to give you this much, you always have something to say and nothing to back it up with. I guess its easy for you and your co workers to say he's ok, because he's never around. Maybe oneday I can enlighten you on what kind of person he is, then maybe you'll retract your statement that this clown is ok. If your referring to me as whiner, then I'm perfectly ok with that. What you say about Rubin could easily be said about an inmate who serves time in the same prison as Charles Manson and says he's a nice guy.:rolleyes:

regs1
12-20-2010, 10:00 AM
Truth:

The fire chief is like a head coach, he might him the nicest guy around, he might be even well like, but if he put a shit team together, what good is he.
In this case, Rubin might be a nice guy, and even liked by some people [I'll grant you this], but his administration and what they did caused him to lose his JOB. If he was a success on what he did, then he would have been carried over, but like coach's, it’s not what the coach does, if he well like, or even well dislike, but the team’s performance. In this case he was judged and lost his job on the administrative heads he appointed performance, and yes you will hate to hear this, but also judged by rank firefighters, and officers’ performance and their interaction with the public, and elected officials, if you count that the EMS problems never went away, the lawsuits, and even the disagreements with the council had a play in it. When you put everything together, that why Rubin and others are now looking for new employment.

Ellerbe will also be judged upon the same things, if he is judged a great chief or piss poor chief, or somewhere in between, he will be judged upon the same items as Rubin was. If you think a chief is like or dislike by the rank and file makes him/her a good chief; think again. It’s how he develops his administrative team, their job performance, the day and day operations, EMS, and his relationship with the mayor and council is what counts.

Second, if Rubin did so well, why is he teaching at a college in N.J. – talk about someone out of their element, NJ, like NY are union states, all FD’s there are union with very defined promotion systems, and the promotions extend up to the rank of fire chief, the most he can hope in that direction is fire commissioner, that is a political appointment.

I would think with his ties around here UMD, or even MIFRI would have picked him up.

HOOKwoMAN
12-21-2010, 08:46 AM
here's a clue: I was on day work at the ta while you were in rookie school...

Please inform everyone why you were teminated and I will respond to your rants.

Otherwise the best advice you have ever been given is go away and focus your energy on a new career.

Greetings from Lake Anna!!

HOOKMAN
12-21-2010, 10:11 AM
Boo Boo,

As much as I like trivial pursuit and other Milton Bradley games, you don't interest me enough to care who you are. You are unimportant and make zero difference, not only in my life, but whether I come back to work or not. Instead of focusing your time on me, I think you would benefit greatly by utilizing your health insurance, so you can take whatever pent up frustrations you have with me, to a person who can professionally diagnose your issues.

Though the name you chose fits you perfectly and trust me, its
quite an understatement, don't think your the first person to make up a screen name just too talk to me. I used to think it was creepy that people like you would stalk me, however, being the HOOKMAN, I simply adjusted to my new found fame and realized I would have a variety of people and groups tracking my postings.
However, if you had an ounce of man inside you, which apparently you don't, you would just come out and say who you are so the rest of the viewers would know, however, its not unusual for cowards like yourself to hide.

If your interested in why I was terminated, go to 333 Constitution Ave NW Washington, DC 2001, walk inside and ask to speak to the Clerk of the Court. They are very nice people and will kindly assist you in any information you might need.

Other than that, and I'm sure you've heard this before, the best advice I can give you boo boo is, " DON'T GO AWAY MAD, JUST GO AWAY ".....:) kisses Merry Christmas & Have a Happy New Year.....Best Regards HOOKMAN

Antozilla
12-21-2010, 10:27 AM
Hook what happened that got you canned?


As for Chief Ellerbee he has been on here in the past and seemed like a stand up guy so he deserves a chance

HOOKMAN
12-21-2010, 10:57 AM
Ask WonderWoman, she seems to know everything from my trial board from "hacking Dennis Rubins email account" to "fighting the biggest man in the DCFD"...lol....on a side note, in my spare time, I wrestle alligators and collect stink bugs..:D

fd141
12-21-2010, 01:22 PM
I just knew you were a MANLY MAN!!

HOOKwoMAN
12-21-2010, 04:56 PM
I was recently shown a communication between you and Mendelson regarding the BBQ Team. The DCFD BBQ team was a valuable asset to the department as trivial as it seems. They provide food for visiting firemen, chiefs, kids camps, etc. So what if they got comp time for providing this service? Were you the one who brought it all to an end by complaining to the council that the chief was paying comp to the BBQ team? Just answer the question...

WONDER DAWG
12-21-2010, 05:54 PM
HOOKwoMAN actually it was the letter he sent to the IG about myself and the BBQ Team. I was the one who pulled the plug on the team cooking in the city for right now. The Team had some members that had a lot of heart. They put in WAY MORE TIME THAN WE WERE GIVEN. As much as we did for the City and the Department it is a shame for a Firefighter that was terminated to stay so involved in the politics of this great Department and the City Government.

Hook I am not mad but maybe I should be. I usually just look the other way. But as a friend I will tell you that it would be in your best interest to stop posting negative BS on here or any other web site about THIS GREAT DEPARTMENT

HOOKwoMAN as you know the BBQ Team put on a very good show at the Funeral for retired BFC Alan Dutton. The team is still cooking on a very limited basis right now. If the new Chief needs us all he needs to do is call.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

HOOKMAN
12-21-2010, 08:34 PM
Hang on, I have more important things to do right now, but ill be back in a jiffy...This one here beats out boo boo's sob story of how I got into a fight at the firehouse and hacking Dennis Rubins email account. This is going to get good, if not comedic...Be right back, I have to go wash my under carriage...the BBQ team...hahaha:D instead of singing in the shower, I'm going to be laughing....

HOOKMAN
12-21-2010, 09:00 PM
In the towel drying phase now...FYI is there any more secret documents out there that I need to put into my next post?

HOOKwoMAN
12-21-2010, 09:42 PM
There are numerous issues regarding you and your conduct that I could post here right now. Sworn members of this department operate under the authority of the fire chief. When you belittle him, you belittle the men and women working under him. ENOUGHT ALREADY. Move on and focus your eneregy on your new career. The more shit you post on here the more I will........ Stop with your rants and bad mouthing me and everyone else who works under our current Chief in this great department. We are paid professionals, held accountable for our actions- not cry-baby ticks. Your shit grows old.

HOOKMAN
12-21-2010, 10:51 PM
Hey Boo Boo.....I'm surprised you didn't report on my letter to the President of the United States which stated, we would be more united as a nation if we ate more BBQ.:rolleyes:

You state you saw a communication between myself and CM Mendelson, but ask me if I'm the one who brought the BBQ team to an end. Did your brain actually communicate with your fingers prior to typing that or are you just confused:confused:

Since your spewing out garbage to make yourself feel like a big boy inside to make it look like your stickin it to HOOKMAN, why don't you retrieve that communication, make a copy of it and put it on here for all to see. You know that old saying, " put your $$$ where your mouth is ". If your gonna bring it sweety, then bring it, if not, then stay at home and sing it.:)

BREAK TIME::eek:

WONDER DAWG.......I knew you hung to the loins of Dennis Rubin, but to drag me into your BBQ club is absolutely histerical.
Just as I told boo boo, go get your letter that I sent to the IG about you and your BBQ team....I mean between the 2 of you, you ought to be able to come up with a letter stating it was HOOKMAN that took down the BBQ Team..:D You make it sound as devastating as when WHAM and George Michael broke up.....

Let's be real here DAWG....Just reading your FB page is enough to know how full of yourself you really are when it comes to your World Famous BBQ, so do you honestly think I care enough to go out of my way to be concerned about what rub your putting on some meat and what meat your going to rub etc......

Do you honestly think your that important that I would waste my time trying to find out what your doing....I can honestly say before I read this, I never once worried about you, your meat or where ever you were cooking your meat...I might have joked about you being Rubins personal chef once here and once there to someone (like I'm the only one:rolleyes:), but seriously DAWG, I'm flattered you would think I'd drop the dime on the World Famous BBQ team being compensated while Rubin puts your unit out of service for one of his and Billy D. Hayes community events, but I have better things to do, like counting squirrels and watching cows mate. Honestly, I think you've been sniffing that Stubbs rub instead of putting it on your chicken and brisket, because its making you awfully paranoid my friend.

As far as thewatchdesk is concerned my friend, I've not once bad mouthed the work the men and women do on a day to day basis nor have I ridiculed or mocked the traditions past or present of the DCFD. Its the men and women day in and day out that make the DCFD what it is and not your pal Dennis Rubin. Maybe Ive bad mouthed your hero, but guess what DAWG....I DON'T CARE....you know why.....BECAUSE HE IS A SCUMBAG...And if you know everything that I knew about him and the shitbirds under him, well, you'd still suck each and everyone of there ASSES inside and out if it got you somewhere....RIGHT DAWG....Your a follower my friend....your the type of weak individual who if they see wrong, turn a blind eye....Why? Well, as long as the DAWG is taken care of, F the rest right.....

You can run your mouth all day long to me pal, but guess what, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BACK YOUR SHIATT up, but my friend, I CERTAINLY DO.:) You used to be on thewatchdesk more than me stirring the pot and talking smack, so just when the Rubin watchdesk task force starting taking names of those talking bad about the BUBES, you went away into your quiet crawl space....

As far as your BBQ team goes.....Not once and I mean once, did I ever say you didn't perform a great service to the department by serving food for a camp, some visitors to the Nations Capitol or anyone else. Trust me, everyone knows your a suck ass and when Sir Dennis calls, the DAWG crawls to his knees and does whatever Sir Dennis asks of him....RIGHT DAWG....You don't need little old me to go spreading rumors to the Inspector General, Inspector Gadget or call the International Association of BBQ Pitmasters and report that the DAWG is profiting while at work, making money off charity events or operating an illegal BBQ catering cartel ring....Its obvious in the eye of the beholder what you do....People watch and people listen my friend, so I'm sorry you had to be placed into the BBQ witness protection program and operate under a secret name.

For one, I know zero about your BBQ Team and could give a flying you know what about it. Kudos for cooking at funerals and various other things. Whether you do it for free or the Department pays for it, I don't know and I don't care.
I could continue on about what I know about the BBQ team, but it would just be rumors...for instance.

Didn't you or are you currently going out with Dennis Rubins ex girfriend?

Didn't someone on your BBQ team who retired about a year ago leave your BBQ team?

Was it true, that person who left your BBQ team, who by far was really known in the DCFD for their cooking, left your team because he couldn't deal with your ass kissing of Rubin and cooking event after event for Dennis Rubin?
See DAWG, I don't have any proof whatsoever, if some or any of those instances are true, just like you HAVE ZERO PROOF of your accusations that HOOKMAN brought the BBQ team down by writing the IG:D

So before you go out on a limb and try to rescue the BBQ team from destruction, look within yourself on why your not doing this and why your not doing that....maybe, just maybe, you'll find the real answer.....

HOOKMAN
12-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Boo Boo....the forum is all yours sweety....Post all you want about me....So far your OH for Five and your credibility is zero....Wanna keep going..Just make sure, since you want to hide who you are, because you've lived and walked the straight and narrow, instead of yapping from your pretty place, put copies of everything your saying I'm guilty of......I'll say your in the 1% of Rubin lovers, so with that said, your game is weak.

So let's start with the communication with me and CM Mendelson...Oh and you mentioned a failed drug test in your previous post ( that too is funny considering I haven't done drugs or had a sip or sniff of alcohol since May 13, 1991), but hey you know everything about me right.....I mean c'mon, if someone on my Trial Board told you or you heard from a 3rd party something about me, it has to be true right boo boo.....In all honesty, your embarrassing yourself, so why don't you make your 5th post sound better than a little girl who just experienced her first menstrual cycle.:)

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WONDER DAWG
12-22-2010, 06:32 AM
Hook you actually made "THE DAWG" laugh. Well I am glad you have half of the story. If you want the rest you know how to find me. OH and BTW the person who states he left the team was let go. He was not asked to VOLUNTEER his time any longer!!!! It seems being a drunk and coking BBQ in public really don't mix!!!!!

As I stated in my eariler post, PLEASE LISTEN. It is doing you no good to continue to post all of this negative BS on here or any other websites. Honestly I think you have way tooooooo much time on your hands. If you are that obsessed with all of this BS let me know. I am opening up a new business "THE DAWG's COUNSELING SERVICES" I would love to hhave you for patient number 1.

I like everyone on here was not involved in what happened to you. I feel for you. You have stated in the past how much you loved this job and this department. I fully understand. But when you kick the people that run this department it MAKES US ALL LOOK BAD. Remember we didn't put them in thier postions, we work under them. Believe me when I tell you this. Dennis Rubin did a good job as our Chief. No I did not (like most others) agree with everything he did. I was hired in 1982 and things are a lot better now then they have ever been. Most of the rank and file like our Chief, not as you have been stating. So please do yourself a favor and let it rest. If you really want your JOB back this is not the way to do it.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

HOOKMAN
12-22-2010, 08:46 AM
DAWG....ill be brief here as I have some things to attend to this morning, however, upon my return to the confines of my cozy home, ill get out my laptop and recap the 4 years of Dennis Rubin. When you speak as highly of Dennis Rubin as you do, you speak on behalf of the 1% that believe he did a good job. BELIEVE ME, the majority of the department does not believe my bad mouthing of your pal BUBES, reflects badly on the rank and file. They don't come to work each and every morning wondering how they can serve the great one. That theory DAWG is one coming out of your orifice and not of the rank n file. Just because you sucked his ass inside and out because he took care you, don't coerce the members in drinking your specal kool aid. TRUST ME, if there was a vote on whether Chief Shitbird was the great Chief you speak of, you'd be sadly out numbered and probably find yourself in a corner somewhere by yourself. As far as thewatchdesk is concerened or any other site, I'll keep doing what I'm doing and you keep rubbing your meat for the next BBQ competition. I'm more than comftorable doing what I am and do so without your theraputic input. NOW WHERE IS THE LETTER I WROTE TO THE IG about the BBQ team????? You opened up your mouth, so produce the goods hoss. Isn't that the real reason you came out of thewatchdesk closet so you could tell the world how your BBQ team has come upon rough times...
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regs1
12-22-2010, 09:13 AM
I going to put my two cents into this little pissing match, Dawg we know each other, and I hope we have a mutual respect Hookwoman, I also know who you are, you can ask the Dawg about me.

And actually I am really surprised of all the half truths, interpretations, and just plain BS going on, I know all three of you, are for the first time I disappointed. Hookman never got onto criticizing the rank and file of the DCFD he never insulted them, only the chief officers, and yes they can defend themselves, that do not need others to defend them. If they do, then they are really are the pieces of Sh t they put themselves out to be.

And if anyone here believes that criticizing the fire chief, and his AFC shows disrespect to the department, then you two are just as guilty with what you said about the new chief.

As for my feeling about rubin; dawg you pretty have a good idea on that, but everyone here is getting into a moot argument. Rubin has how many more days left?

It doesn’t matter who likes, dislikes, hates, love, bottom line he is no longer the fire chief of DCFEMS, the going to be a new sherriff, deal with the new not the old.

Dawg, sorry to hear about the BBQ team, you knew I supported it, I never let my feeling for the rubins administration get in my way about it, I hope you put it all back together. Anyhow I thought you were thinking of retirement, and opening a BBQ place in MD.

Now let’s all get out of this pissing argument, in two weeks it will not matter, Rubin will be looking for a new job, probably all of his AFC’c too, and yes I do believe in what go around come around.

Everyone has an opinion, Hookwoman, if rubin was so great, why is he not employed? As I said before, rubin administration will be judged after the fact, if you were liked by the AFC’s you received all you wanted, if you were not in that group, you were screwed over. That item is well documented, by myself and others.

I just hope that the DCFEMS does not become another Atlanta, after rubin left there, most of what he did was found wrong [I can’t say illegal] but certainly not the intent of how the department was supposed to be run. Most of his programs were cut, there were lay-offs of chief officers because of how he promoted, and companies closed.

I will make this prediction, if the same does happen here, rubin will never see another job a chief of a major city. In fact he probably lose his teaching position since most of his ideas will be proven to be failures.

WONDER DAWG
12-22-2010, 09:25 AM
Hook I don't know where you are getting your info but the BBQ Team is not on rough times. One thing you don't know IT IS MY TEAM AND NOT THE DEPARTMENTS TEAM. I spent the money to by most of the equipment and not the department. As far as sucking Rubins ass, if I am doing so I am following your lead. I have never seen a suck ass like you. If you read back on this thread you will see how you are sucking Kenny's ass thinking you will get your JOB back. HE ISN'T EVEN THE CHIEF YET!!! YOU WERE FIRED!!!!!!!! REMEMBER?????? Oh I forgot there is a fine line you walk where everything you do and say is right and nothing you have ever done or said is wrong!!!!!

IN YOUR EYES YOU ARE PERFECT!!!!! Lets see you were an employee of THE UNITED STATES NAVY and THE DISTRICT of COLUMBIA FIRE DEPARTMENT. You no longer work for either. WHY????

There are over 2000 members in this department. Now I know you called or emailed al of them to take a poll. 1% only are you sure????? YOU ARE MORE FUCKED UP THAN A SOUP SANDWICH

As far a the letter to the IG. It is so funny that you would call me out on that. You and I both know that is not going to happen. So run along little boy and call the very few friends that you still have and get some more firehouse gossip to post on here.

Oh and be very careful what you post. You know that law suit shit work both ways. I know it would not do me any good to sue as you have nothing to take NOT EVEN A JOB!!!!!!

Merry Christmas Hook. "THE DAWG still loves you and misses you!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

WONDER DAWG
12-22-2010, 09:36 AM
Regs yes we know each other very well. I also feel for you. I have a lot of respect for you. Always have and always will. You were a good officer and a great Chief when you acted.

The BBQ team is doing fine. I slowed down because of a letter sent to the IG. Myself or any members of the team DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!! We did a lot for the citizens and the city for nothing at times and never complained. It was fun and we are still doing it on a limited basis.

Hook my few post on here were kind of harsh. I thought I was calming down in my older age. We the rank and file should never be at each others throats. Although at times it was and still is fun. Back in the day you and Buckey came to my aid in a much needed time on here. We not only won the battle we won the war. Oh and it was a lot of fun to boot. I am not going to go back and edit or delete my posts and would hope you don't either.

Now as far as sucking ass, you may not like what the Team did or why we did it. But I assure I was not SUCKING ASS!!!! I am scared to as the smell of shit makes my dick hard!!!!!

Merry Christmas


Be Safe

THE DAWG

WONDER DAWG
12-22-2010, 09:39 AM
Regs BTW May 14th!!!!!!

Be Safe


THE DAWG

fd141
12-22-2010, 10:22 AM
So, a PRIVATELY OWNED B~B~Q team's members are getting Comp time from the DCFD??? Sounds a bit like a FEDERAL FRAUD case here:(

If I was "coking" B~B~Q,I would expect to be fired. But fired from a VOLUNTEER based cooking team??:confused:

If the "rube" is SO GREAT, why did he NOT STAY in the DCFD the LAST TIME he was employed here?:confused:Hell, he could have been Chief Many Moons ago and Retired.:eek:

The R&F have never been targeted by Hook.It's always been the Upper Echelon. They have NO Choice but to participate and cover for sake of losing THEIR job. SOME people chose not to follow the criminal activities(of which WILL come to light shortly);) and paid for it!:cool:

It's good to hear the team is alive & well. I am SURE they perform a valuable commodity when called upon. Thanks for providing it when needed.:D


Hook has quite a FEW causes for lawsuits from some of the more recent posts(as well as previous ones) if he decides to pursue them.:rolleyes:

And as far as The PMSer,"cry-baby ticks"?:)Y'all are professionals who are held accountable? I think not!! Y'all are cry-baby P.U.F.F.s who ABUSE the Union's power by NOT standing on their own when they have done wrong.But,that's a different thread.:)

Now,understand that I'm not saying the R&Fs are not professional in their job performance.They are VERY MUCH SO. And ALWAYS will be!!!

regs1
12-22-2010, 11:15 AM
Dawg:

I know you did nothing wrong, and yes you put a lot of money and time, I just hope the new fire chief does see the benefit of having and using the BBQ for FD events.

Sorry to hear about IG letter, I assume like a lot of things it was based on rumor, half truths and direct lies.

Like I told you and other many times, it not what you do , but the perception, of what you did and received.

Like a lot of IG investigations, they will do their jobs because they have to, and it will be found that the members of the BBQ did nothing wrong.
I just hope BBQ team will continue on.

Truth
12-22-2010, 11:50 AM
I going to put my two cents into this little pissing match, Dawg we know each other, and I hope we have a mutual respect Hookwoman, I also know who you are, you can ask the Dawg about me.

And actually I am really surprised of all the half truths, interpretations, and just plain BS going on, I know all three of you, are for the first time I disappointed. Hookman never got onto criticizing the rank and file of the DCFD he never insulted them, only the chief officers, and yes they can defend themselves, that do not need others to defend them. If they do, then they are really are the pieces of Sh t they put themselves out to be.

And if anyone here believes that criticizing the fire chief, and his AFC shows disrespect to the department, then you two are just as guilty with what you said about the new chief.

As for my feeling about rubin; dawg you pretty have a good idea on that, but everyone here is getting into a moot argument. Rubin has how many more days left?

It doesn’t matter who likes, dislikes, hates, love, bottom line he is no longer the fire chief of DCFEMS, the going to be a new sherriff, deal with the new not the old.

Dawg, sorry to hear about the BBQ team, you knew I supported it, I never let my feeling for the rubins administration get in my way about it, I hope you put it all back together. Anyhow I thought you were thinking of retirement, and opening a BBQ place in MD.

Now let’s all get out of this pissing argument, in two weeks it will not matter, Rubin will be looking for a new job, probably all of his AFC’c too, and yes I do believe in what go around come around.

Everyone has an opinion, Hookwoman, if rubin was so great, why is he not employed? As I said before, rubin administration will be judged after the fact, if you were liked by the AFC’s you received all you wanted, if you were not in that group, you were screwed over. That item is well documented, by myself and others.

I just hope that the DCFEMS does not become another Atlanta, after rubin left there, most of what he did was found wrong [I can’t say illegal] but certainly not the intent of how the department was supposed to be run. Most of his programs were cut, there were lay-offs of chief officers because of how he promoted, and companies closed.

I will make this prediction, if the same does happen here, rubin will never see another job a chief of a major city. In fact he probably lose his teaching position since most of his ideas will be proven to be failures.Rubin is employed.....by the Distric Gov't for a little while longer....

regs1
12-22-2010, 12:44 PM
Truth,

yes he is, just like a lame duck congressman.

What happens after Jan 2.?

HOOKMAN
12-22-2010, 05:04 PM
Truth....you finally posted something that was true:D

DAWG.....you know my skins thick and putting all this aside, I'd be the first one to give you a big ole hug;).....

However, I will clear the air once and for all, as it pertains to your BBQ team and your team being investigated by the IG. First off, the IG is a joke and is a puppet of Sir Adrian Fenty. I know this because I've initiated in the past, 2 FOIA requests, as well as asking him to look into Chief Shitbird and his activities outside of the Department. He declined do initiate anything, therefore, I initiated something outside of the District Government:)

So what do I know about the BBQ team? Obviously in my last post, not much...I posted a few rumors (not factual information) about what little I knew and you cleared the air. I'm not going to sit here and say one bad thing about your BBQ team and what its done, because I don't feed off the rumors like most do. To the best of my knowledge, I've never uttered a single word on here or to anyone in person, until recently, about the DCFD BBQ team nor have I said one negative word about your team or the people on it. I have ZERO knowledge of your expenses, reimbursments or anyother costs associated with your BBQ team.

Whomever gave you information saying it was myself that initiated an investigation through the Inspector General's Office, to look into the DCFD BBQ team, you better check your sources again. My suggestion to you is to do what I've done in the past and that's initiate a request through the FOIA ( Freedom Of Information Act) to the IG's Office. In your request, ask the IG the status of the investigation and see if he can release all information regarding the investigation into your BBQ team. I know they use stall tactics like they've done with the NREMT alleged cheating scandal, because they're trying to cover it up by saying its still under investigation, therefore, we can't release any information as it would hinder out investigation. So if they're still investigating it, they will not release info to you, me or anyone else.
DAWG, I can 100% assure you, that I nor anyone else I know, has any knowledge of any investigation or has gone to anyone regarding anything your BBQ team is to have allegedly done....TRUST ME.....

As far as my employment is concerned, you left a pretty big gap in between my short military career and the fire department. For anyone to know my employment history or anything else the department personally knows about me, you or someone else would have had to access the personnel file in the firehouse or someone at Grimke leaked you information. Either way, whether it was you or someone else, I wouldn't go bragging about that, because I think that's a big no no in the FD to do that.

Irregardless of whatever is in my personnel jacket, prior to my employment, it was good enough for the suitability board to pass me on to the next phase and offer me employment.
And minus whatever is in there prior to my termination, I'm ok with it, as its in the courts hands and luckily enough, you nor anyone else is going to be making judgements on my behalf. Unlike Dennis Rubin, his 2 Assistants and their corrupt Trial Board process, I'm pretty confident the judge in my Federal case, come trial time, will make a fair and honest ruling against the people who stuffed my personnel file with all the BS you might know, as well as everything else that transpired during my employment history.

And DAWG, there will be no sucking ass on any part of myself, in order to get my job back. As it stands, my appeal case is the 23rd out over 400 cases, for the year 2010. Mr. Fenty underfunded the OEA, therefore, they have half the judges to tackle the remaining cases from 2009 and 2010. As far as Chief Ellerbe is concerned and what I say on here, there's nothing I'm saying on here that is going to get my job back nor is anything I say on here going to prevent me from getting my job back. Part of my civil suit in federal court relates to my postings on thewatchdesk, so if anything, I'll comeout a winner because of what I've posted.:)

As I stated in one of my previous posts, I got to know Chief Ellerbe (DFC at the time) prior to my March 4, 2009 testimony, thereafter and up until my termination. After I was terminated, I continued to keep in touch with Chief Ellerbe and kept him aprised of my situation. I can't expect anyone to understand what its like to go through what I've personally experienced, but along with Chief Ellerbe, I surrounded myself around people that not only understood my situation, but knew the administration and how they operated. After my testimony, there were people I didn't know who reached out to me and offer there suggestions and advice. After I was terminated, I met with people I never thought I would meet and then some, as it pertained to not only my situation, but the corrupt administration currently in place.

If Chief Ellerbe comes in and rights the wrongs committed by the current administration, he will do this because he knows the DPM and the DC Code. I'm more than sure, he will follow it to a T and will not do anything without the authorization of incoming Mayor Gray. If part of this includes myself and anyone else who was unfairly terminated by Dennis Rubin, coming back to work, then so be it. I'm looking forward to the day I return to work....I miss fire:)

dcfdsid
12-22-2010, 06:42 PM
The word is "regardless". There is no such word as "irregardless". Common mistake.

I have a bone to pick with the BBQ team. About 3 years ago (closer to 4) you guys did a cook-out at Engine 30 and used all of our black pepper. I think it was the original "Sav-U" day after the death of Asia Sutton on Minnesota Ave SE.


God Bless our Chicago Brothers!

Sid

HOOKMAN
12-22-2010, 07:12 PM
Thanks Sid.....every now and then, I like to throw in new words that have yet to be introduced to the Webster's Dictionary....

HOOKMAN
12-22-2010, 07:20 PM
Though not a word, its accepted in speech only...hmmm interesting....I wonder when it will be accepted into writing....:confused:


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

PrideFromWithin
12-22-2010, 09:06 PM
[QUOTE from WONDER DAWG]..... " the smell of shit makes my dick hard!!!!!



LOL , That exact quote was entered in The E-15 / Rescue 3 " Quote Book " during the Early to Mid 90's .... Dawg You have been saying that for years...

OBTW , Miss S and I do miss your BBQ sauce, havent had any better since moving to North Cac-a-lackeeeee.... it's all Vinegar based down here....


WOOF WOOF

kenzin
12-22-2010, 10:18 PM
Ok, everyone, it's the holiday season, so first, I'll wish everyone a happy holiday. Now, let's get down to business! Some people who have an intimate understanding of my situation would say that I have every right to feel bitter and want to get even. In fact, there are rumors that are readily accepted by people who don't know me who probably expect me to behave in that fashion. I am not bitter and have no intention of wasting my time trying to get even. The situation, which was entirely above board and leagally vetted, provided me with an opportunity to have an experience that I would want any of my good friends to go through.

I've met some wonderful people and been fortunate enough to live and work in a place that the people here call "paradise." The department here in Sarasota is populated with employees who enjoy their work and do it enthusiastically. They don't complain about running medical calls and they appreciate being employed in a place where the high temperature tomorrow (December 23rd) will be a balmy 70 degrees. The sky is usually super blue and the Gulf of Mexico is approximately 10 minutes from my office.

Regarding the department in Washington, D.C., my hometown. For far too long, in the past, the incoming administration has shown a total disregard for the outgoing administration and summarily dismissed the employees and their ideas, only to start over without the benefit of building on what has transpired prior to their arrival. It's as if the belief has been, "since I'm the new chief, I know what's best for this department and don't need any advice from you." Quite frankly, I think that is ridiculous. We have to take a different approach and we will.

Have a good holiday everyone.

HOOKMAN
12-22-2010, 10:54 PM
Quick...someone tell Dave Statter that Chief Ellerbe just posted his 70th post at approximately 10:20 pm EST..:D

WONDER DAWG
12-23-2010, 06:56 AM
Sid OK we owe you some black pepper. I actually by it by the pound!!!!

Hook as always I still love you. But I would love for you to be my first patient. Don't worrry I still have the DON'T ASK DON'T TELL policy in effect.

Philly I hope you and Miss Sara have a Merry Christmas. Now that my BBQ Sauce won the World BBQ Sauce Championship, you will be able to pick it up is Stores very soon!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

TCosgroveJones
12-23-2010, 09:32 AM
I along wth a whole list of People just want someone to get the Clinic Fixed:eek:
Merry Christmas
Cosgr:Dve

getto boss
12-23-2010, 10:32 AM
I along wth a whole list of People just want someone to get the Clinic Fixed:eek:
Merry Christmas
Cosgr:Dve







AMEN Cos!!:rolleyes: To all my brothers and sisters in DCFD, Have a safe Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! :cool:

BOSS

STATter 911
12-23-2010, 12:09 PM
On it Hook, along with my crack investigative team focusing on the two posts Chief Ellerbe left on my site. We're going to get to the bottom of this yet. Film at 11.

To all, including Hookman, Merry Christmas and a happy and safe new year.

Dave Statter

DotheDew
12-23-2010, 12:13 PM
I was going to post this under its own thread, but this thread seems to be drawing all of the attention right now.....Sooooooo to all of my Brothers and Sisters in the DCFD....MERRY CHRISTMAS. God Bless You and Your Family!!!!

Shawn, Jen, Dallas, Jackson, and Cole Downs

HOOKMAN
12-23-2010, 02:58 PM
Dave, I would highly reccomend you form a Task Force, rather than a Crack Team, it just doesn't sound right. People might start to think your investigating people who smoke crack or people who like to show their crack. This thread is drawing quite the attention and what's so thrilling to me about it isn't so much what's being said, as it is the average viewers at onetime and the over all views in such a short period of time...very impressive:D along with Dew, HOOKMAN & HOOK Jr. wish everyone a Merry Christmas and look forward to a fresh start for the New Year...even you DAWG....IG Investigation...lol....

regs1
12-24-2010, 11:35 AM
Merry Chirstmas to all:

From the Watchdesk crew

SIMPLETON
12-24-2010, 06:22 PM
BOY oh BOY can anyone say DRINKING THE KOOL-AIDE by the pitcher full, this cat's got it bad !! I'm sure he'll follow the rube show where-ever it may appear and believe in him and his side show act to follow with the gleem in his eye!! AND BETWEEN HIS LEGS.
Maybe he feels like a bigger man when he can hide behind his lap-top and praise the leader-ship when it's in question and falling like the house of cards. JUST MAYBE .. I wonder if he thanks his brother (s ) next to him when the bell hits? or just give's high praise to the pentigon simpletons !!
THAT IS VEY FUNNY We've heard of tennis team's base-ball teams ect.. never ever ever heard of a B-bque team ?(maybe it's a southern thing) That's some funny shit .... I'm sure since it's a volunteer issue the whole team must be fire buff's or as we call them in ATL fire queer's. OH BTW I'm getting paid good jack and the hell if I want to roll out of bed when it's 24 degree's to a real job !! LET ALONE DO IT FOR for ziltch 000000 . It's a career a Job not a hobby, We love what we do we pride ourselves in our profession (EVEN THE HOOK-MAN) but when it's time to go home to your family or YOUR MALE COMPANION. go home hey what-ever happened to giving some time to a little league team or pee-wee football ?? or a candy striper .

just remember be your own man- - after-all at the end of the day you'll have to answer to the man in the mirror.

OH yes forgot to mention I've been w/ ATl fire for 30 yrs
just in case some-one's wondering I've been there !!

MAY I PLAY ON HOOK-MAN'S TEAM
OR JUST PLACE THE LOTION ON THE SKIN?

Truth
12-24-2010, 06:39 PM
BOY oh BOY can anyone say DRINKING THE KOOL-AIDE by the pitcher full, this cat's got it bad !! I'm sure he'll follow the rube show where-ever it may appear and believe in him and his side show act to follow with the gleem in his eye!! AND BETWEEN HIS LEGS.
Maybe he feels like a bigger man when he can hide behind his lap-top and praise the leader-ship when it's in question and falling like the house of cards. JUST MAYBE .. I wonder if he thanks his brother (s ) next to him when the bell hits? or just give's high praise to the pentigon simpletons !!
THAT IS VEY FUNNY We've heard of tennis team's base-ball teams ect.. never ever ever heard of a B-bque team ?(maybe it's a southern thing) That's some funny shit .... I'm sure since it's a volunteer issue the whole team must be fire buff's or as we call them in ATL fire queer's. OH BTW I'm getting paid good jack and the hell if I want to roll out of bed when it's 24 degree's to a real job !! LET ALONE DO IT FOR for ziltch 000000 . It's a career a Job not a hobby, We love what we do we pride ourselves in our profession (EVEN THE HOOK-MAN) but when it's time to go home to your family or YOUR MALE COMPANION. go home hey what-ever happened to giving some time to a little league team or pee-wee football ?? or a candy striper .

just remember be your own man- - after-all at the end of the day you'll have to answer to the man in the mirror.

OH yes forgot to mention I've been w/ ATl fire for 30 yrs
just in case some-one's wondering I've been there !!

MAY I PLAY ON HOOK-MAN'S TEAM
OR JUST PLACE THE LOTION ON THE SKIN?
Are you fucking retarded or what?

fd141
12-24-2010, 06:52 PM
Are you fucking retarded or what?

He was/is a Few Kool-Aid drinker......

? BUCKY IS HERE
12-24-2010, 06:54 PM
Are you fucking retarded or what?

I was thinking the same thing!!!!

Deuce Engine
12-24-2010, 07:17 PM
Are you fucking retarded or what?

He's posted some doozies in the past, but this one tops 'em all.

SIMPLETON
12-25-2010, 12:13 AM
Are you fucking retarded or what?

help help I'm being attacked oh my I was called a mean name maybe I better get in touch W/ my supervisor and make a report to the IG !!

or better yet i think I'll report him to THE BUBE .

Forget it I know who will assist me ??? the B-B-que team YEAH YEAH:)
BTW jack-ass ... ronnie few was never w/ ATL FIRE RESCUE someone else your dreaming of drank his kool-aide.
hope your Christmas is white >>> trash I mean Truth:eek:

fd141
12-25-2010, 10:33 AM
Numb~Nuts, I never stated Few was with atl.:confused: Just you are a follower.:eek:
Which you,BTW, DID NOT deny:rolleyes:

Truth
12-25-2010, 12:38 PM
help help I'm being attacked oh my I was called a mean name maybe I better get in touch W/ my supervisor and make a report to the IG !!

or better yet i think I'll report him to THE BUBE .

Forget it I know who will assist me ??? the B-B-que team YEAH YEAH:)
BTW jack-ass ... ronnie few was never w/ ATL FIRE RESCUE someone else your dreaming of drank his kool-aide.
hope your Christmas is white >>> trash I mean Truth:eek:There is not a truer name on the watchdesk than yours.....

HOOKMAN
12-25-2010, 04:35 PM
Truth...you couldn't be more closer to the truth in saying that, hence the reason he calls himself Simpleton. He writes on here like the true Simpleton he is. However, I can attest that Simpleton is an awesome Irish lad filled with nothing but love for all fireman. Though he's in retirement mode, I can assure all, that Simpleton has and never will drink the Kool Aid. Talking to Simpleton on the phone is quite different than one would think on here. When Simpleton first posted on here, I thought he was an escapee from Melwood. Simpleton is a DC native who put his time in for the Atlanta FD. Give the poor fella a break as he's practically the only poster south of Virginia...I've gotten to know Simpleton over the last year and he's not only taken interest in what Mr Bubin and Co. did to me, but also showed and still does, his concern for my son...HOOKMAN can truely say, Simpleton is a friend of mine and really awesome person...He might be a Simpleton, but he's also a helluva person...I love you you old Irish bastard. :D

SIMPLETON
12-25-2010, 05:59 PM
UMMMM I'm feeling a warm glow about my body UMMMMMM I think I'm starting to shed a tear of joy as the fine Jamison whiskey runs throughout me' body.

Any way when it's all said and done I know in my heart of hearts that any-one of you FOOLS/SIMPLETONS would find me OR THE HOOK IN THE DEEPEST DARKEST CORNER OF THE BASEMENT as our air tank starts to whistle, If your worth your weight in salt. Oh and for the bbque team I'm still wanting and wating for the application. So as a native I guess I can talk a little Jizz/smack since I've spent more time in a real firehouse than most on TWD but it's all good because we would be the 1st to defend our company
when another jack-ass my speaks out-of line or to belittle the actions of our work on the fire ground.

Any-way be safe my brothers and watch the man next to you for his whistle might just sound later !! and be your own man.
OBTW it's snowing like hell in ATL makes me think of my days in Falls Church @ St. James.:)




in saying that, hence the reason he calls himself Simpleton. He writes on here like the true Simpleton he is. However, I can attest that Simpleton is an awesome Irish lad filled with nothing but love for all fireman. Though he's in retirement mode, I can assure all, that Simpleton has and never will drink the Kool Aid. Talking to Simpleton on the phone is quite different than one would think on here. When Simpleton first posted on here, I thought he was an escapee from Melwood. Simpleton is a DC native who put his time in for the Atlanta FD. Give the poor fella a break as he's practically the only poster south of Virginia...I've gotten to know Simpleton over the last year and he's not only taken interest in what Mr Bubin and Co. did to me, but also showed and still does, his concern for my son...HOOKMAN can truely say, Simpleton is a friend of mine and really awesome person...He might be a Simpleton, but he's also a helluva person...I love you you old Irish bastard. :D[/QUOTE]

dcfdsid
12-25-2010, 09:26 PM
What the phuck are you talking about, Simpleton????

HOOKMAN
12-25-2010, 11:09 PM
Sid...Simpleton just retired and has been drinking Jameson all week...that and being a Smpleton, plus writing on thewatchdesk = a truely intoxicated Simpleton....Love ya Earl Bob

SIMPLETON
12-26-2010, 04:31 PM
I love it when the Hook cums to my rescue and explains my each and every move. Seems i'm speaking english here sid ???? MAYBE I'LL TRY A LITTLE SPANISH NEXT TIME:D .

BE SAFE ALL



QUOTE=HOOKMAN;594303]Sid...Simpleton just retired and has been drinking Jameson all week...that and being a Smpleton, plus writing on thewatchdesk = a truely intoxicated Simpleton....Love ya Earl Bob[/QUOTE]

HOOKMAN
12-27-2010, 05:45 PM
Quit posting on thewatchdesk when your intoxicated, you almost retired Irish drunkard.....:D