Quints In D.c.

[5th Alarm]

The Quint Truck Is Becoming Popular In Central Viginia As Many Of You May Know. There Is Richmond Fire With A Total Quint Concept And Other Depts. Near Richmond With Quints In There Fleet. Chesterfield Fire [ Next To Richmond ] Has Two Quints That Are Tower Ladders And All-rear Steer. The Rear Steer , According To The Operators Can Turn And Maneuver Better Than Engines And Possibly Tiller Trucks. Petersburg And Colonial Heights Have Been Pleased With Their Performance Of There Quints As Well. ( Would Quints Work In D.c. ? )

[Pumperman]

Amazing that your first post would be about this.

Instead of trying to draw us out on an internet message board just come on by any of our houses and brag quints up and see the response you get.

[5th Alarm]

Amazing that your first post would be about this.

Instead of trying to draw us out on an internet message board just come on by any of our houses and brag quints up and see the response you get.
HEY PUMPERMAN , WHAT IS AMAZING IS THAT YOU WAS THE FIRST TO RESPOND . I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT OTHER DEPTS. THOUGHT OF THE QUINT TRUCK . NO BRAGGING OVER HERE . IT IS NOT THE RIDE YOU ARE ON BUT THE FOLKS THAT STAFF IT. YOU COME BY ANY OF OUR STATIONS AND WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT WE THINK OF THEM AS WELL .

[captain4life]

Was tried with one engine company [E-12], did not work out. I doubt the DC will try this concept again. The quint concept appears to be failing in Richmond and St Louis for various reasons. Main reason is manpower; one company it seems cannot do all the necessary jobs that two separate companies can.
A dedicated truck company can do the first R in RECEO while a dedicated engine can establish a water supply and extend a line. Can a quint company do both?
Quints will often run with 4 to 5 people, so question always is what job do you do first, what job is put off till later. Does that driver put the pumps in first, or help raise ladders, or even takes a position to raise an Ariel or platform first? Do you waste a truck to hook up to a hydrant to provide a stable water supply?
The question then becomes does a quint then only acts as a dedicated engine or truck when dispatched? If this policy is started, a cost factor of the truck becomes important question in today’s budget problems of many departments.
If you have unlimited money, have dedicated manning, and every fire truck was a quint, and was dispatched as either and dedicated engine company, or truck, than the concept is great, and does work.

[5th Alarm]

thanks for the response , I agree with you. the quint truck has been a pure firefighting machine in central VA, but extremely high maintenance . there is always one , two , or three in the shop on any given day. more important , admin in those depts. used the quints to supplement staffing. there are even some quints that ride with three people. the engine co. and truck co. is here to stay ! STAY SAFE

[Jake Rixner]

5th alarm, I don't know who you are, but you must have your head up your ass! Petersburg's quint is an abortion. Richmond has never gotten a handle on how to deploy these vehicles. Cfd run theirs as ladders.

Quints are defensive fire trucks. They are great if you wanna play defense all the time, but you don't win games(or SAVE LIVES) playing defense. The Big VCU fire is about to be documented for the disaster it was both operationally, and tacticly.

Maybe your really Robert Bobb who brought these disasters to Richmond in the first place. Post your name and come out from under the rock your hiding under brother!

[captain4life]

5th Alarm;

I disagree with a quint truck has been a pure firefighting machine- at the most it is a band-aid for volunteer companies with a limited budgets, and manpower issues. A paid department should never sign on to this concept, it just will not work. Those department who have signed onto the quint concept were once very aggressive attack mode department, the same department using quints now seem to have the defensive attack mode a primary consideration on the fire ground. :(

[TCosgroveJones]

Quint's :mad:
More garbage. Im still waiting for the pumpers to come back and 6 MAN
Truck Companies before I retire.
I can only Hope. :rolleyes:
Cosgrove :D

[5th Alarm]

I Wanted To Know What Other Areas Thought Of This Truck Not To Start A Debate On How Insufficient They Are. I Can See Now They Are Not As Popular In Other Areas Through The Warm Responses . For You Jake , Do Not Give All The Credit To Bob Bob . He Was Fed All The Info From Mack Jack , Remember They Looked At The Financial Figure And Less Manpower To Operate With . Besides Jake Speaking Of Rocks I Think You Need To Crawl Under One , You Got More Problems Than What You Think A Quint Truck Is Good For.

[WesFx911]

The pumper Engine 12 ran really wasn't considered a Quint, it was an "enhanced engine" (Engine with a ladder). But none the less, Dc got rid of it, Fairfax got rid of thier Quint, Baltimore got rid of thiers and Arlington is about to replace thiers.......so they really don't work here in the immediate DC area....... :) :)

[The BRC]

Cosgrove,

You have a better chance of seeing one Tremel's horses on Pennsylvania Ave. SE :D

[TCosgroveJones]

Cosgrove,

You have a better chance of seeing one Tremel's horses on Pennsylvania Ave. SE :D

If Im lucky he might even let me drive ;)
Cosgrove :D

[Hopewell]

For those interested in seeing how another quint integrated department works, try checking out the quint/midi concept being used in Rochester, N.Y.

The quint/midi is one company, with four firefighters assigned to the quint, two assigned to the midi (mini-pumper). Routine medic calls get just the midi, priority 1 medic calls and fires roll out the full company. Box assignments get 3 companies, an engine, and 2 quint/midis, OR... 2 engines, and 1 one quint/midi... plus the heavy rescue, battalion chief, and protectives on a working fire.

[Brooks]

The more dense your population / fire threat is, the less you need quints, and the more you need specialized work groups (engine and truck companies). I can prove this with numbers, believe me. There are only a few places in the country that are more dense than DC. You can take that pun if you want it.

Of course, we are on track for getting a serious ass-whoopin on a future budget, I can hear it now: "We're not cutting your budget, we're just closing 4 fire companies and opening 8 medic units, it's all within the fire department, you all keep your jobs, the budget's the same, why are you complaining about it?"

Also, please use capitalization like a normal person, it makes your posts easier to read.

[Observer]

Brooks - Where have I heard that statement before, Baltimore, Philadelphia and on and on. Municipal management seems to think that if you have a siren and red lights, it's all the same thing.