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SouthsideLadderMan
07-13-2004, 01:14 PM
Lets give some thoughts about Moderators here.

1. Do you think Moderators should participate in controversial threads or do their jobs and shut them down.

2. Do you think that Moderators should be responsibly posting active or retired members of the jurisdiction they want to Moderate? Ie; A guy from California Moderating a New Jersey Thread just because it needed a Moderator.

3. Do you think Moderators should have their privledges taken away for making personal attacks or selective moderating?

4. What Constitutes Spamming in your honest opinions? Three post's to three different threads or a post to each thread on the Board?

Some of the Moderators have their heads up their A-ses most of the time. Some of them participate in personal attacks and some of them continually allow threads to get way out of hand. Why in the hell are they Moderators? So they can delete negative post's about themselves or to censor particular jurisdictions? John Mutchler and TaskForce are two of the best Moderators on this Board, why can't the rest of them adhere to the same standards? 11927 ain't bad either...

Let's hear it....and keep it serious if we can.

38-3
07-13-2004, 06:11 PM
1. I think they should be allowed to as long as they stay neutral or to warn.

2. Shouldn't really matter too much where your from. I think preference should be given to those in the immediate area first.

3. Yes

4. Not sure

SIXand17
07-13-2004, 08:13 PM
1. I think everyone originally came here to post away, so I say let them. On the other hand, they did accept the position and with that comes responsibility. I would hate to see them start stepping in and shutting threads down when "it" hit the fan, though.

2. I'm of the opinion that they should moderate in the area, in which they live and/or work.

3. Yes - everyone else is subject to similar action for similar offenses, so why shouldn't they be?

4. Post to each thread on the board or each forum in a sub-forum.

I had a run-in with the VA Moderator a while back. I don't have a problem with the guy doing a job, but I have a problem with him doing it in a half-ass fashion (or selectively)...and being a hypocrite on top of that.

medic5
07-13-2004, 08:32 PM
1. Yes
2. They should be from their own area. However, a person who has no ties or allegiances to his/her friends from a particular region might be more objective in some instances.
3. Their privileges as a moderator should be taken away. Not as a poster, I would assume 75% of posters have engaged in some attack at one point or another, so what is fair for one, is fair for all. Hold on a minute, this is the Watchdesk, that rule doesn't apply. Right, regs1? Right John Mutchler?
4. Spamming still goes on. Those who post their stupid bingo drives or need to annouce a job opening in every single thread... that was supposed to be left up to the administrators so they can post a message, not a whole new thread that takes up worthless space.

As a side note, most moderators I've seen are fair, such as Snowman. 11927 likes to make sure he proves his point and is never wrong, as can be read in the Baltimore County sections. Conflagration likes to edit out every single thing he possibly can and get away with it. Regs1 is an administrator, also worthless, as he picks and chooses which posters to go after. For the most part, the moderators are great, but some of the others really leave a lot to be desired.

Phantom
07-13-2004, 09:45 PM
This is fun.

Just a sidenote - the only editing of threads that is SUPPOSED to be taking place is the removal of names, blatantly false and misleading posts, racists posts, and posts with details of ongoing investigations. Others on a case by case basis after discussion among the moderators.


As far as arguing, I encourage moderators to use different screen names for that - but either way is their decision.

11927
07-13-2004, 11:32 PM
Phantom,

What about the censoring of the cuss words? I have received alot of complaints because I cannot keep up with the enormous amount of cussing. What can you advise?


Josh,
You are correct, I am never wrong, but that is about my opinions. I do my damnedest not to let that interfere with my responsibilities of Moderating. If you feel that that has clouded my judgement, PM me so I can be aware, and prevent it from happening anymore.

Thanks.

medic5
07-14-2004, 12:06 AM
Damnit 11927.... I thought I was the only one who knew everything about everything!!!! :D

TaskForce
07-14-2004, 12:19 AM
Some of the Moderators have their heads up their A-ses most of the time. Some of them participate in personal attacks and some of them continually allow threads to get way out of hand. Why in the hell are they Moderators? So they can delete negative post's about themselves or to censor particular jurisdictions? John Mutchler and TaskForce are two of the best Moderators on this Board, why can't the rest of them adhere to the same standards? 11927 ain't bad either...

Let's hear it....and keep it serious if we can.

Thanks, Chris...Appreciate the vote of confidence....When will you be on Woodyard next>?

SouthsideLadderMan
07-14-2004, 08:08 AM
Task Force, I am there at least two days a week. Usually sleeping in on Thursday Nights. I also try to get up there on a weekend day when staffing might be short! Stop by if in the area, and if I am not there....have one of those schleps give me a call!

Medic5, I would have to disagree about Regs1, respectfully. I think Regs1 is also a good administrator. I guess you might have had some different experiences with him.

SIXand17, I think I know who you are talking about. And I had the same problem. Only difference is I know him personally, and had personal issues with him. After a few PM's yesterday, I understand where he is coming from a little better now. But still think some of the Mod's do their job with little consideration for ethics.

mbk10
07-08-2007, 10:52 PM
Lets give some thoughts about Moderators here.

1. Do you think Moderators should participate in controversial threads or do their jobs and shut them down.

2. Do you think that Moderators should be responsibly posting active or retired members of the jurisdiction they want to Moderate? Ie; A guy from California Moderating a New Jersey Thread just because it needed a Moderator.

3. Do you think Moderators should have their privledges taken away for making personal attacks or selective moderating?

4. What Constitutes Spamming in your honest opinions? Three post's to three different threads or a post to each thread on the Board?

Some of the Moderators have their heads up their A-ses most of the time. Some of them participate in personal attacks and some of them continually allow threads to get way out of hand. Why in the hell are they Moderators? So they can delete negative post's about themselves or to censor particular jurisdictions? John Mutchler and TaskForce are two of the best Moderators on this Board, why can't the rest of them adhere to the same standards? 11927 ain't bad either...

Let's hear it....and keep it serious if we can.

1. Moderators should do just that...moderate. It's okay to have a controversial topic on the board, but posters need to be respectful when posting their views or not post them at all.

2. There is no way a moderator can effectively monitor a board if they have no knowledge of the area and/or subject material being discussed on it. In my case, although I am no longer in Orange County, I have a sound knowledge of the area and a lot of the topics being discussed because I was a resident for 18 years and member of an OC department for 8 years. I have several people in my former department and others that I still remain in contact with in order to stay current on things.

3. I think moderators need to be fair and firm in enforcing the rules and policies about posting on TWD. Selective moderating and posting in violation of the rules does not send the message that should be communicated by moderators. Moderators who do not adhere to the rules they enforce should be removed from their position.

4. I think spamming should be considered posting anything to a board that is not relevant to the subject. Posters who do this should be warned initially about the policy and then further action should be taken if they fail to comply afterwards.

I am further interested in sharing the moderatoring responsibilities with firemanjoe. He is also an active and responsible poster on the Orange County board. Because this board is quite active, I feel that our combined moderatoring assignment would be useful.

I respectfully ask for your consideration for joint moderator responsibilities delegated to firemanjoe and myself for the Orange County boards.

trashytroll
07-09-2007, 12:51 PM
yes I agree
with SouthsideLadderMan


that moderator should not be able to act like a children and get hostile when asked a question and criticize us people ether for posting our opinion
and should not be able to change what you right so IT looks like what they want it to look like I have one moderator that changes everything I write and takes out what he thinks he needs to if that is aloud then when he post childest stuff about people that is name calling he gets away with it.

Emtmom
07-11-2007, 08:50 AM
Lets give some thoughts about Moderators here.

1. Do you think Moderators should participate in controversial threads or do their jobs and shut them down. I see nothing wrong with controversial threads, and believe there is no reason to shut them down.

2. Do you think that Moderators should be responsibly posting active or retired members of the jurisdiction they want to Moderate? Ie; A guy from California Moderating a New Jersey Thread just because it needed a Moderator. Well, I must say I have to agree with medic5 on this one, sometimes an impartial party is a better choice. Knowing the area has nothing to do with following the rules of the desk.

3. Do you think Moderators should have their privledges taken away for making personal attacks or selective moderating? I would guess that should be left up to Phantom, but I do not believe that selective moderation is a good thing. I try very hard to be fair in my moderating duties.

4. What Constitutes Spamming in your honest opinions? Three post's to three different threads or a post to each thread on the Board? I believe that if there are job openings, or fundraisers you want to post for everyone, you should post them in the General Fire Department discussions and in the thread for that Dept.. I have deleted several of those from the Conn. threads.