Government lies or Propaganda?

[Little Leather]

FIRST OFF! I intend no disrespect to anyone, This is footage of the pentagon attacks, I want to know your thoughts on this video

http://www.overclockedgaming.com/pentagoncrash.swf

is it government lies or more propaganda?

[gerry_58]

There was some evidence of wreckage, but not much. I can believe that very little of the a/c survived after hitting a reinforced structure like the Pentagon at a high rate of speed with nearly a full bag of fuel.

I also have heard alot of interesting speculation to the contrary.......

What purpose would it serve to manipulate the details of this attack? If it's not in the side of the Pentagon, where is flt 77?

[Little Leather]

dont know, its really scary though, we saw what happend to the twin towers :(

but the pentagon, we only heard about and 20 minutes after the attack we saw footage

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

[DFM]

Little and gerry. No disrespect taken, BUT that video was made by someone who has absolutely no clue what their talking about AND way to much time otheir hands. Believe me a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon that day. I was driving one of the airport crash trucks from National Airport that was there. There was plenty of wreckage both inside and outside of the building. Including one the planes engines was ripped off and was sitting against the side of the building. Don't believe any of this conspiracy theory BULL. I've read some of this speculation stuff, including what these idiots said what the crash truck I was operating that day did and didn't do. I don't remember any of them being on the truck with us. Also ask the firefighters from Ft. Myer who had to dive for cover when they SAW the plane coming towards them. Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions.

[Little Leather]

Thanks for clearing it up :D

[DFM]

Your welcome

[gerry_58]

Little and gerry. No disrespect taken, BUT that video was made by someone who has absolutely no clue what their talking about AND way to much time otheir hands. Believe me a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon that day. I was driving one of the airport crash trucks from National Airport that was there. There was plenty of wreckage both inside and outside of the building. Including one the planes engines was ripped off and was sitting against the side of the building. Don't believe any of this conspiracy theory BULL. I've read some of this speculation stuff, including what these idiots said what the crash truck I was operating that day did and didn't do. I don't remember any of them being on the truck with us. Also ask the firefighters from Ft. Myer who had to dive for cover when they SAW the plane coming towards them. Feel free to PM me if you have any further questions.

I absolutely agree that a 757 hit the Pentagon that day-- which is why I posted the pic of the fuselage with part of the "American" logo. I didn't mean to infer anything different. There has been some interesting speculation to the contrary. (In the same arena of engineering, I have seen it mathematically proven that helicopters can't fly.......) The bottom line is that our gov't is not beyond manipulating the facts to achieve someone's personal agenda, but I know of none that would be served by misrepresenting what projectile caused the damage to the Pentagon.

[kep.ctc]

The music told me that this was a fabricated account. It also did not allow time to read the so called qoutes. Most likely it was put together by a wacko organization (PETA) or other LOL.

On the Snopes web page if you look at the sources they tell one a lot about this website.

Harrison, Rebecca. "Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theory Book Lures French."
Reuters. 1 April 2002.

Henley, Jon. "US Invented Air Attack on Pentagon, Claims French Book."
The Guardian. 1 April 2002.

Look at the protestors in New York making asses out of themselves. Will Kerry join the Swiftvets for Kerry in New York to protest. See how easy propaganda is to create.

GO BUSH!!!! Kicking ass taking names!

[DFM]

That was one of the bigger pieces. There was on that had the whole red "A" on it. And I second the motion "GO BUSH!!!" Kick Ass

[fyreteacher]

I was there and personally saw debris, including landing gear between the "rings" where the plane stopped. The last missle I saw didn't have any wheels on it!!!!

[Pumperman]

How can you even title a thread "Government Lies or Propaganda" with the amount of registered members of this board that responded and worked that incident?

[hog]

i just want to say one thing the FRENCH suck and are cowards

[Vollies Suck]

i just want to say one thing the FRENCH suck and are cowards

What a profound comment! Yes, of course the French are a nation of cowards. Among them are such famous cowards as Charles DeGaulle and the Marquis de Lafayette, the Maquis members who blew up bridges, attacked their Nazi occupiers, assassinated Nazi leaders, and rescued and hid lord-knows-how-many downed American and British pilots. Oh, and let's not forget the French cowards who fought to the death against Communist aggression in Indo-China.

I wonder: Is it possible, maybe even likely, that the reason the French opposed our invasion of Iraq is that they know, firsthand, within the memory of many of them, the horrors of war? No, of course that can't be it; they are simply a nation of cowards...

[hog]

yup you fit right in with the French cowards vollies....you are a coward just like them

[Vollies Suck]

yup you fit right in with the French cowards vollies....you are a coward just like them

I'm just curious about something: With a mind as puny as yours, and an imagination and education so obviously limited, how did you ever become a volunteer fireman? I realize you don't have to be a genius, but even the worst volunteer fire company has some kind of membership standards...what is wrong with yours?

[hog]

did you ever fight for you country vollies suck?...or did daddy get you everything?.....don`t run your mouth unless you ate the same dirt i did

[Little Leather]

lol VS Im taking it your the most hated paid person on this place CONGRATS! *hand #1 Dickhead award too VS*

[hog]

vollies suck is a coward ........jealous of the volunteer
thinks he knows better ....lolo nothing but a loser who needs mentle help

[Fireduck]

VS must have a few braincells that are suffering from AGRB (Anal Glaucoma Retention Blockage) to be posting anything of non-sense.

[Emtmom]

VS must have a few braincells that are suffering from AGRB (Anal Glaucoma Retention Blockage) to be posting anything of non-sense.
Or it might be Cranial Rectal Inversion! Ether way he's not sure if he's coming or going!