Coming To A First Due Near You ! ! ! ! !

[DCTROLL]

No more rumors!!!! :mad:

[NorthSTAR]

Keep that vehicle in mind next time you wake up at oh-dark-thirty for the "proceed to assist MPD with gaining entry". :rolleyes:

[Bemiss]

I am a DC Officer. You probably will only see that thing during CDU Details or anouther major event in the city also it will probably run all situations wth our ERT team. I saw it for the first time at the Acadamy. The thing looks tough.

[Odie23]

That's a sweet looking rig.

[Tk_3_Barman]

Hey Bemiss me and you go back a real long way brother BUT

I am a DC Officer. You probably will only see that thing during CDU Details or anouther major event in the city also it will probably run all situations wth our ERT team. I saw it for the first time at the Acadamy. The thing looks tough.

Why don't the cops stay cops and let the firefighters be firefighters. You guys need that rig like we need guns during IMF. Thats a special event. We want to play with each others toys.....givem up. Lets play with each others toys then.

Does this mean the squads/Trucks wont get called out to "assist the police" at 3am to check the well fare, or open a door?

You guys could have used that money in a lot better ways. :(

[NorthSTAR]

Responding close behind:
Photo credit to AFE, Inc.

[Bemiss]

Originally posted by Tk_3_Barman
Why don't the cops stay cops and let the firefighters be firefighters.
You know what I am all for that. When I am at work fire bad. When I do get a chance to get to the station fire good. We've had this discussion before and I said the same things then as I am now. You guys get paid to do your job we get paid to do ours.

Originally posted by Tk_3_Barman
You guys could have used that money in a lot better ways.
Your damn right they could and should have used the money to buy more cars or get computers in all the cars. I agree with you on that and man I would hate to see you armed. :D

[QUITCRYIN]

Ohhhh..... Dont Hate!!!! Mpd Has No Desire To Play Fireman. Anyway That Would Mean They Would Have To Buy Some Comfortable Recliners Or New Chairs To Sit In Front Of Thier Districts And Watch Cars Go By All Day..

[Loo for life]

Don't you dare start mouthing off you POS, while I wait for your ass on accidents, shootings etc.. the only thing some of you MF'ers seem to respond to quickly and you fuck that up is our fire calls.

I bet that new Krispy Kreme is busy 24/7with your ilk.

So let me guess you are one of those volunteer firemen who didn't score HIGH enough on the fireman's exam so you became a cop and now want to be a insert the word you understand officer(psuedo,faux,fake or wanna be) __________ fireman.

The firemen I ride with run no less than 15 runs per shift, drill another couple of hours... So any chance they get to sit out front is well deserved! In addition I also believe the City Paper did an article on some of your fat ass MPD officers not the firemen.

Find a Police website to talk smack on you shitbag!

An so there is no mistake if you'd like to discuss this in person feel free to find me at 1018 13th St NW on Platoon No.1

Was it a sad day for you when "Amy Joy" closed?
John P

Disclaimer: This by no means is an afront on real want to do thier job "Cops" who want to spend more time fighting crime on the streets then training to do wanna be firemen type rescue stuff ;)

[Loo for life]

Iwill ask you since you seem more of a crime fighting type officer. I like both rigs, is the lil one a light unit?

[captain4life]

QUITCRYIN:
QUOTE "Ohhhh..... Dont Hate!!!! Mpd Has No Desire To Play Fireman."

Then how come I pulled more cops out of fires then civilians?

[QUITCRYIN]

Well, The professionalism that you just showed was typical..and your Capt?.......wow. No hard feelings, I see you cant take a joke. well Im sure we'll meet again. until then take care.

P.S. u said your at 13th St. station.. HMMMM.. theres no squad there. Why are u so worried..lol

[captain4life]

No SE where the EMS response IS faster than the MPD, and notice I did not mention police cars blocking out firetrucks at calls. :)

[Loo for life]

I just want MPD to do the job tasked too it for once. You have a lot of guys in your SOD that are wanna be rescue squadsmen or NYPDer's. OOOOO AAHHHH

As for no squad on 13th Street you are correct but I defend my own! It is like a family, I can have no use for Squadmen but screw anyone else that talks trash about them.

Anyway if I was wrong and it wasn't mean't with a malicious intent, then let me know and I will buy u a doughnut to make amends.

[Tk_3_Barman]

I hope you know that was not directed at you.

I was just using you quote as reference.
I can't get over how they justify that kinda money on equipment, yet the city crys broke. That Squad/SWAT/Command center/NY wanna-b rig ........with its cute little light unit, are gonna sit there and rust away to nothing before they use it.........or drum roll please..................they are gonna try and tread on our turff. Which ever it is, its a cryin shame.

Looforlife......next time they call for you for the man down..........take as long as it would to get there if you were them on a shooting.....hell the drunk might sober up and walk away by then and your problem is solved....lol.

Hey Bemiss.......Why would it be bad to give me a gun? I would fire a warning shot first! :D

[Hydro Engineer]

I ran a BOX the other night first due and three cops were responding (for a FIRE call) up the road. I was able to past 2 of them but the other got a good head start. But we were off the piece first. In the ( order of dispatch it's Engine,Truck,Chief,Squad, Ambo) where does MPD fall in. Don't get in my way again, next time you wont get away :)

[QUITCRYIN]

my Last Post Was Meant For ....loo4life
:d

[24/7 NOT 72]

Lets see where to start. How about Loo for life " fat ass MPD officers " I take it you haven't seen the company pride photos on DCFD.COM. And while your doing the math 15 runs for a 24 hour shift. Thats not bad. How about 25 to 30 runs in eight hours ? But no big deal I picked this job just like you did right,or were you a cadet :cool:

And about passing the fire test. Don't act like it was that hard. I did pass and I turned it down. Before you start crying the test for MPD wasen't that hard either K. OOOps thats me trying to act like an NYPDer.

Tk 3 Barman " NY wanna-b rig " I can't figure out who your talking about, is it the ESU truck or Tower Ladder #3. That is what they say when they go off the air right Tower ladder #3. That doesn't sound anything like FDNY does it.
K.

I really don't know what the big problem is with the truck or squad or what ever you want to call it I mean look at it this way you only have to see it 8 times a month unless your working overtime right.

[BMIG]

Lets see where to start. How about Loo for life " fat ass MPD officers " I take it you haven't seen the company pride photos on DCFD.COM.

Tk 3 Barman " NY wanna-b rig " I can't figure out who your talking about, is it the ESU truck or Tower Ladder #3. That is what they say when they go off the air right Tower ladder #3. That doesn't sound anything like FDNY does it.
K.


:D :D Dayum! He scored a touchdown, and went for two on that one. :D

[Loo for life]

24-7 my ass ** 8 hours and off duty or OT ** that is what your motto should be..

Let's not lie to the people we serve ! Since when do you go past 8 and not put in for OT, only when Ramsey pisses in your post wheaties and changes the shift short term for a crisis mode. If you all spent your time actually doing your frickin J-O-B there would be no crisis to begin with...

Let's see you have 3800 FTE's (not including all the other 29 Police Agencies) too cover, we will give you benefit of the doubt 69 sq miles. Taking into acct dayworkers, SOD and it's numerous needed branches oh and those 300 off on stress etc.. etc.. you should have roughly 10 cops per sq mile per shift for christ sakes sooooooo please don't go all high n mighty on me :D

OOOOO 20 to 25 per 8 hour shift, zDrunk on street let's call Fire waste n Ambulance and fire truck time for some one we could take to detox, report filed, man urinating in the alley ooooo report filed ooops same drunk oooo a two-fer come on I was born at night but it wasn't last night. OBTW if you do handle that many then you r the exception not the rule and I congratulate you (I am being serious 4 one moment here)


Well U may have it on the technical merit on the photos, but we were not thwe subject of an article about our waistlines suggest you shoot for a letter to the editor on that one spud.

Next; How come you didn't address any of the other snide comments of mine, most likely cause they are true!!

Quitcryin: I knew who you were addressing as per my reply read it slowly wipe the doughnut crumbs and coffee stains from the computer screen


;) Have a nice day, still love U cops next best thing to firemen!!

[Tk_3_Barman]

Yes we do call it a Tower Ladder. Because THATS WHAT IT IS ! :eek:

What are you gonna call your Squad/TSU/SWAT/Look at me I look like NYPD/Poser/Waist of money on something We don't know how to use and should have saved the money apparatus? :cool:

Just how will you go off the air? :rolleyes:

By the way....we use a button to go off the air now....we don't say anything. So get your running route straight!!!!!!!!! :p

[24/7 NOT 72]

Now Now Loo,first of all it would be a Comptime slip not overtime. Overtime is what you would get if you rode the ambulance but your a FIREMAN so we all know how you hate that med-local stuff so lets not lie to the public on that one.

And while we are talking about the truth here do you guys get out the door as fast on med-locals as you do on a BOX ? Once again the people should know these things right. Lets not lie to the people we serve.

To Tk 3 barman Im sorry I was unaware that you went off the air with a button know. I thought that you were still running a fifth engine company to help out with that great radio system the city bought. But that is a safety issue for you guys and THAT WAS needed.

But thats not a waste just having that engine company sitting around is it. I mean they could have been helping me out with all the drunks I stop right. :D And when we go off the air I guess we wil say ESU truck #1 is 10-8 or 10-7 . I say truck 1 because truck 2 is still being built. OOOps should we have spent that money on something else too.

I mean come on Loo do you really thing saying that there are 3,800 cops around that there won't be any crime. Thats like saying there should'nt be any fires I mean damn we only have 7 police district's and you guys have 30 plus stations right. :o

Can't you just say The truck looks nice and leave it at that. Im sure we could sit here all day and night and talk smack about MPD and DCFD. Maybe you just happen to be someone who comes to work and has pride in the job that you do. I just don't understand why you think the fireside is the only service in the city that has that pride. STAY SAFE GO SKINS.........

[? BUCKY IS HERE]

This Is Great Now I Can Get More Sleep AT Work..AND BECUASE I AM SO GOOD I WILL BE GETTING LOTS OF O.T. TO TEACH THOSE DUMB ASS COPS

[WOTFWD]

I've been following this thread and I don't really get what the problem is. MPDC gets ESU trucks for thier Tac team and it's like some great controversy. Do you DCFD guys think you'll be out of jobs soon? Why do you really care? Do you think the "horror" stories from NYC will now happen to you? What's the protocols for MPDC's ESU? If any departments in the country should have an ESU for tactical/tactical haz mat/additinal rescue resources, DC is one of them. I think you guys believe too much of the BS out of NYC.

[? BUCKY IS HERE]

As long as you fuck ups keep trying to do our job we will always have something to do!!!!!

[Tk_3_Barman]

Just think of all the hydrants, intersections, and allies they can block us out of with that thing. I always know where the front/rear enerences are.....just look for a cruiser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And 24/7..............nice looking rig.........it should be red and white with DCFD on it though. Kinda like Squad 4 used to be........OOOOOOOOOOOOPPPs, I guess the city wont need to put that back in service now though.

Have a great donut eating day there buddy. PEACE :cool:

[WesFx911]

Hey that "rescue" or "paddy wagon" or whatever it is looks pretty cool. I would have no idea why the police need such a thing but hey, after 9/11 everyone is blowing all thier money on new "toys". Anyone know where it will be housed and what is the Manufacturer ????? Can't tell from the angle.....it that a Mack cab ?????? :cool:

[Loo for life]

No 24 that is why our fires go out fast cause we do our JOB when called on nothing more nothing less....

But numbers don't lie too many cops not enuff sq miles ;)


WOTFWD: U from here? Do u know our arguements or the things we face day to day I THINK NOT, so read don't respond... OK thats a good lil guy from up north
Like the firemen in NY but have no love for the city or it's image.


CYA
Damn my Frickin Skins lost to the Cowgirls

[24/7 NOT 72]

Tk 3 barman if your going to talk shit get it right it's spelled " DOUGHNUT ". :D

[WOTFWD]

Wow, Loo, just a simple question out of curiosity. You know, trying to figure out what it is exactly what you deal with day-to-day. But since you put it that way, I guess when youre trying to figure out the meal or what game to watch on tv and the big shiny MPDC-Rig goes by and you think youre missing out on something, it would be stressing.

I also guess youre thanking god for the arsonist keeping you guys employed.

It's dicks like you and the other self titled Dick that causes the problems you guys are fearing.

And BTW----The 'Skins suck dog balls.

[dccaptain1995]

Why are we having a debate on this, on the fire side, no more getting up in the middle of the night for a “hostage saturations”, only to sit for hours two blocks away for nothing. I guess we can start calling the cops to assist animal control calls too. On the cop side, they now claim they do more things, will get more money because they are to be able to show what they can now do, something that has eluded the senior staff on the fire side. Oh lets correct this - we still have the one and two week officer day camp still going on, great way to spend money, we should have let MFRI do the school, everyone would have been better off, and probably would actually have learn something new; instead gave overtime to "teachers" who do not have a clue on what they are doing, and often they were corrected by senior Capt's & BFC's on their mistakes. :)
But lets face the facts, the decisions on what the cops do with the new “rescue” unit will be made by Chief Ramsey, and Chief Thompson and their respective staff.
Chief Thompson will probably lets the cops do anything they want or run anytype of call they wish too, since he has yet to make a decision wave on anything [ The Dr Danials termination - mayor office told him to do it, not his decision].
Chief Thompson just drifts along doing anything the mayors office tells him, promoting those who will never challange him, or transferring anyone who makes a wave or challanges a decisions he or his staff made.





:o Still typing away on a DC computer, just not a FD computer at the Training School

[Observer]

Shortly after 9/11, an FDNY battalion chief wrote a book called, "The Last Man Down". There is a line in that book that seems to fit in this thread. "If firefighting was easy, cops would do it."

[Hey Slim]

dccaptain1995

u must b 1 of the cry baby capts on that law suit. quit fuckin cryin, your not going 2 get made. just retire so someone that wants the job can have it.

[QUITCRYIN]

Shortly after 9/11, an FDNY battalion chief wrote a book called, "The Last Man Down". There is a line in that book that seems to fit in this thread. "If firefighting was easy, cops would do it."


????????? OBSERVER.....? NO WHERE IN THIS THREAD/POST DID ANY COP SAY THEY WANTED TO DO "FIREFIGHTING". ...OR DID I MISS SOMETHING... BE SAFE

[dccaptain1995]

Hey Slim:
You are an ass :eek:

first: already retired :)

second: you know nothing about the lawsuit, have not and will not post on that subject, honoring a request, :o but if you knew anything about the captains on that lawsuit, you will know how dumb of a statement that was.

third what's your problem, can't stand the post about thompson, or are you one of those who will use the best friends method of getting promoted to BFC, hell sucking up always worked for me. :o





:cool: Still typing away on a DC computer, however did I just visit the TA and use one of theirs? :)

[Hey Slim]

WOTFWD

talk about keepin yourself employed. lets see I remember the dirty dozen and many other MPD officers on the wrong side of the law, U only arrest about 50% of serious offenders, 25% r released because of MPD screw ups when the arrest was made, of the 25% left 15% can't b convicted because of MPD screw up's collecting evidence, and of the 10% left of that 5% r released way 2 soon because of your fellow law enforcement brothers screw up, so that means just 5% of the 1's u do arrest stay in jail. I'd say thats job security. and I do have many more MPD fuck up's, thought I'd save a few 4 later.

Just remember, your fucked up alot more than we r cause theres 3 times as many of u to fuck up.

[QUITCRYIN]

HEY SLIM..... :D U FORGOT TO ADD THE THE AMOUNT OF FIREMEN WE CAUGHT :eek:

[Hey Slim]

dccaptain 1995

1st, thats cool, have'nt been called an ass in a long time, dick is everyone's preferred term 4 me.

2nd, I'm glad 2 see u did the right thing and retired, sucked all that ass and still did'nt make chief !

3rd, not a chief, don't want 2 b a chief, have never sucked ass in my career and never will. thats y i'm a dick (or an ass) and have no friends. i've always done things the way I want 2, right or wrong!!!!

enjoy your retirement, I can't wait!!!!

[Hey Slim]

They all got off.

[Hey Slim]

Oh, captain,

I did'nt forget, I know abit about the lawsuite but I'll leave it alone sence it's such a sore subject.

I enjoyed working with though.

[dccaptain1995]

Hey Slim:

Incorrect on last two postings- but yes I agree lets leave the lawsuit alone.

[? BUCKY IS HERE]

Wotfwd, I,ll Tell You What We Deal With Every Day A Bunch Of Flat Foot Doughnut Eatin Dumb Mother Fuckers That Park There Cars In Front Of Fire Hydrents Or On Your Hose, Block Intersections Before The Box Alarm Assighnment Gets There.then They Come To Your Fire House Try To Drink Your Coffee Or Get A Place To Park For Free When They Go To The Mci Center, But The Next Day They Forget And Write You A Ticket Or Wanna Lock You Up For Some Stupid Shit, Then They Go Into A House Three Doors Down From The Fire Building Pull Out A Kid Or Two And Get A Medal And Then Have The Balls To Accept It!! I Hope This Sheds Some Light On The Subject!!

[24/7 NOT 72]

On every Box the police are always in your way give it a rest. If you guys are so good and fast at what you do then how come the police are always on the scene first ? Sorry forgot we are trying to take your medals.

And thats true I see how we just lock all you guys up on St. Pattys Day when your running around with green hair in plain view of the public who we don't let stand at 15th through 17th and Const. and drink. If all you want is a medal then I guess I will be like the guy Im sure your going to vote for and throw mine away and tell you where to pick it up.

[24/7 NOT 72]

Im also sure that you have never asked the police for a hook-up on parking at an event in the city right.
Never said something like " Hey brother Im a DC Fireman do you think I can slide through here". Or sorry that I was going 80 in a 25 but " Im a DC FIREMAN and Im on my way to work".
Even after the officer saw the thirty fire department stickers on the back of your pick-up truck. And the union plates you have. But we are pretty stupid so thanks for having all those stickers to let us know who you are.
I mean it is pretty hard to eat a doughnut and read stickers and a plate at the same time. Be SAFE BUCKY....

[BMIG]

Even after the officer saw the thirty fire department stickers on the back of your pick-up truck. And the union plates you have. But we are pretty stupid so thanks for having all those stickers to let us know who you are.



Dayum, this dude is good :D :D .

[Tk_3_Barman]

How about spending some time on Deez-nuts. :D

But thank you for the spell check.

[24/7 NOT 72]

Hey Tk 3 barman if I wanted any lip from you I'd get it off of Shorty Egans zipper. :D

[BMIG]

Hey Tk 3 barman if I wanted any lip from you I'd get it off of Shorty Egans zipper. :D


:D :D :D

24/7 won't you come over to the better agency. Besides I could use some more entertainment on my shift.

[? BUCKY IS HERE]

24/7 Don't Bring Eagen Into This Get A Full Size Fireman!!

[WONDER DAWG]

I thought you liked midgets!!!!!!

24/7 not trying to stir up any shit but do you have any stock in
DUNKIN DONUTS????????? :D

[Whatdahell]

Can't we all just grow up?

[? BUCKY IS HERE]

fuck no that would not be any fun!!!

[Loo for life]

You know u guys are fucked up ..

Capt, Wotfwd, and whom ever else read my lips...


THIS IS ALL IN FUN, for christ sake

I only play an asshole on here, I am not one for real well wait yes I am ;)

Anyway yes the truck is only for whatever, but quit tryin to steal our fun of fucking with each other, Please go away if you don't want to read our baiting of each other gooooood gawd don't look

I live for my moments to fuck with my doughnut eating bretheren, they are a lil sloooow but I still love em.

Now relax sit back and enjoy the festivities don't take it too seriously except BMIG you are starting to scare me I wouldn't want 24 to stop to short or you make break ur nose :D

As for you 24 I would never ask one of you for a break cause then I would owe a COP and god forbid, I would rather slam my dick in the fire truck door

As for our quick response time I have started to list how cops show up on the scene of a fire faster than a police action as one of the great FUCKING MYSTERIES OF LIFE :rolleyes:

[? BUCKY IS HERE]

As The Lt. Stated This Is All In Fun, So Please Don't Write Us Any Tickets And Thank God Your Cops Because Your To Thin Skinned To Be A Fireman!!! Also Krispy Kream Thanks You For Your Support. :d

[SkyMedic]

Maybe thet bought the ESU with funds generated from giving people tickets for talking on their cell phones while driving. Saw at least 10 officers one morning at Rhode Island and Frankilin just standing out on the corners waiting for commuters to come through on cell phones...what a freaking waste of resources! Maybe they can use the new bus to shuttle officers around for that detail instead of fighting real criminals...lol

[Ghetto FF]

Don't forget the Metro Police who arrest people and "put" them on the ground for talking on there cell phones while entering the metro stations.

[24/7 NOT 72]

Once more if we must talk trash please get the info right. It was a candy bar that the lady had not a cell phone when Metro Police locked her up.

And giving out tickets to people on cell phones, whats the big deal maybe giving someone a ticket for that will keep them off there phone and not in your way when your running your next BOX.

But as always you guys know best about what the POLICE should be doing while they are at work. Maybe when you guys get tired at work you should'nt take a nap!

No thats silly forget that I said that. Did any of you guys get work trades for the night half to go see ladder 49 :D

[Tk_3_Barman]

24/7

You should not really be throwing stones here pal. You must be a fireman wanna be just as much as an NYPD wanna be.

1) You know officers by name :o
2) You know what they call the "Tower Ladder"
3) YOU ARE ON A FIREFIGHTERS FORUM :eek:
4) I am willing to bet sometime within your next tour of duty you will have gone to at least one station to hang out with the guys and drink our coffee ( by the way, you obviously hang out at 16 Engine, so a donation to the house fund would be nice. Or share some of your DOUGHNUTS. One or the other.) :p
5) I bet you cried when Boz got shot on Third Watch the other week. :(
6) By the way.....in order to be on your TSU I was told you have to have experience in the field prior to getting assigned to it. If its true, then you really do wanna be like us.........you have had to or are still volunteering some where to get the training to be on it. :rolleyes:

[24/7 NOT 72]

24/7

You should not really be throwing stones here pal. You must be a fireman wanna be just as much as an NYPD wanna be.

1) You know officers by name :o
2) You know what they call the "Tower Ladder"
3) YOU ARE ON A FIREFIGHTERS FORUM :eek:
4) I am willing to bet sometime within your next tour of duty you will have gone to at least one station to hang out with the guys and drink our coffee ( by the way, you obviously hang out at 16 Engine, so a donation to the house fund would be nice. Or share some of your DOUGHNUTS. One or the other.) :p
5) I bet you cried when Boz got shot on Third Watch the other week. :(
6) By the way.....in order to be on your TSU I was told you have to have experience in the field prior to getting assigned to it. If its true, then you really do wanna be like us.........you have had to or are still volunteering some where to get the training to be on it. :rolleyes:

When did I throw stones ?

1) I know Officers by name, big deal on the scene of an incident why would I ask the BARMAN a question when I can get the anwser I need from the OFFICER in charge. Are you with me BARMAN.

2) Yes its true I do know what a TOWER LADDER is. I happen to look at a real TOWER LADDERs site every know and then and thats how I picked up the name. Thanks KENTLAND....... :eek:

3) I got on the forum because it had a picture of the ESU Truck. Thanks DCTROLL.

4) #4 you may be right about that one. Come on now we like to sit and watch all the HOOOOOOO's go by too. And if you need some doughnuts just let us know we can pick some up for ya. Nothing like a good doughnut after a long nap at 16 engine.

5) Boz got shot on Third Watch ? I did'nt know that I must have been working the Third Watch when Third Watch was on. Im crying now, I must be crying almost as much as you did when " BULL " died in the back of the shitbox in " BACKDRAFT ".
Man what a movie it still gives me chills. And those fires. They just looked so REAL. :eek:.

6) To get on ESU. Not that hard, show up and do some training with the tools. Did I really have to spend years as a FIREMAN wanna be to learn how to start a SAW.

Loo for Life could you PLEASE have Tk 3 barman send his stuff to you before he posts it. Just take a quick look and spice them up for him. THANKS LOO LOVE YA MAN.

One last thing Tk 3 barman don't forget ..... COPS comes on Fox at 2000 tonight. Take Care and as always BE SAFE............ :D

[SkyMedic]

I think its ridiculous to give tickets for that. A responsible adult should be able to operate a motor vehicle and talk on a phone without any problem. Just a revenue maker for the city, thats all.

[33bullie]

Well first off all let say I am sorry for creating such a big fus over the ESU of MPDC. When I came on in 97 I realized that MPDC was a huge clutster f..K! Yeah alot , moreless like 90% of the officers spent more time trying to hide from runs, arrest, and court than trying to do what they were paid for, and paid for WELL!! When Ramsey and Gainer came on I saw a window of things getting better in years to come So I did some research and tried to see how the MPD could use a "Rapid response tool box." This was to remove the DCFD from police scenes that were police issues, lighting, ladders, forced entries, and many of other reponses. One New years eve a group of subjects began firing off guns at 1432 Clifton St NW. As we attempted to arrest them they closed the apartment stairway door. We could hear them kicking the pistol around. We needed to pop the door and requested DCFD.When E-9 arrived it was an uneasy feeling putting the fireman with the irons at the door. This was the oringinal purpose of and ESU rapid response mini-truck or as my original name SET (special equipment truck). I had the chance to sit with the late FDNY Dep Chief Raymond Downey at a confrence at Galludet Unv. in 2000 and asked him over lunch "How and what would you do different if you were to re-establish the NYPD ESU." He said do away with the duplicate services ( auto, rope, and other rescues by the police that were F.D. related) and do more joint training with the FD so each other would know thier capabilities. That only made common sense!! Well the current Lt. of the MPD ESU was with me during the conversation as well. Looking at the unit today it saddens me that one this unit has a hell of alot of tolls but is a part time team only during events and it went in what I feel the WRONG DIRECTION!! I love that MACK squad and it looks sweet but it is TOO BIG for what D.C. needs. The little trucks are the perfect size and would serve the purpose fine (they were for ESU until the ERT (SWAT Team) took them). Second, I left MPD in July of 03 after exceeding the age limit for the DCFD by 10 months and did not want to spend a career working with and for these spineless cluster fucks that care only about thier selves and have never had an understanding for "Having your heart in the job." I just wished that the MPDC property division would issue spines and heart to these gutless leaders and those certain officers as well who continue to move backwards through the eyes of the folks they work with. It is a shame that the ESU is not providing what it was designed to do. It was not designed to do fire related task, it just uses alot of fire dept. tools and tactics for police related reponses. I am sorry that I even proposed the ESU/SET concept to MPDC in Jan 2000. I can only hope that a certain someone wakes up and makes HIS stand to take "HIS" unit in a direction that would work for the city rather than himself.

Bobby Hay
#1380 3D

BE THE BUNNY!!!

[Greenshield]

Thinking about the money spent for the esu, how much would it have cost to give every squad car a hydra-ram?

[SWEEDE]

I hear the new unit says "city wide" on it. Any truth to it?????

[captain4life]

Is'nt MPD special operations citywide to start with? :confused:

[QUITCRYIN]

Sweede: Sorry, no truth to that.
Just to let you know for future reference, "Citywide" is one word. :D
BE SAFE.

[Phantom]

I think MPD Special Ops is about to have some competition in the police squad business.

The USSS has their own "Hammer Team"
The USCP will be receiveing 2 Rescue Squads
Metro PD wants one
The Cathedral Police are buying a 135" Articulating boom
and at least 2 univiersity PDs are looking into this option as well.

[captain4life]

So by next year, we going to have 6 "rescue' squads, and if DCFD call one of the police "squads" does it mean we will also have to wait 30 to 45 minutes before they show up?

ok, another 1, 2,3 truck companies? Also by next year, DCFD will repond to Georgetown, GWU, AU, or CU and will now have to rescue the university poilce, along with MPD, and any other lazy ass student who feels that it is his right not to leave his dorm room when the fire alarm goes off. :p

[QUITCRYIN]

I think MPD Special Ops is about to have some competition in the police squad business.

The USSS has their own "Hammer Team"
The USCP will be receiveing 2 Rescue Squads
Metro PD wants one
The Cathedral Police are buying a 135" Articulating boom
and at least 2 univiersity PDs are looking into this option as well.


YEAH, WE WILL HAVE AS MUCH COMPETITION WITH THEM AS DCFD HAS WITH NDW................ NONE. :D

[TCosgroveJones]

Is'nt MPD special operations citywide to start with? :confused:
Sure they are.. :eek: How many of the Fat Doughnut eating idiots had to be rescued by the Firemen the other night at the CO leak.. :confused:

Dam what a way to get POD :eek:

Cosgr :D ve ;)



Remeber
Take it!
Paint it!
Put a 4 on it!

[Tk_3_Barman]

I heard a call go out yesterday at work for the squad. It seems they got dispatched to a barricade. Thought thats what that thing that got was for?
Typical MPD, buy it, paint it, let it sit there and rust, beg the city for more money to fix it up again........repeat, repeat........ :rolleyes:

[24/7 NOT 72]

I heard a call go out yesterday at work for the squad. It seems they got dispatched to a barricade. Thought thats what that thing that got was for?
Typical MPD, buy it, paint it, let it sit there and rust, beg the city for more money to fix it up again........repeat, repeat........ :rolleyes:


Tk 3 Barman your back, I thought I had lost you. I did'nt see any rust on the truck friday night when it was being used for lights on 295, but I will check. Hey did you and engineman ever figure out who did what on that A.A. County box ? And like I stated in other post's ( please read them this time ) plans are in the works for the truck to be used on barricades. So sorry until that happens your still going to have to get out of bed. :D Take care and BE SAFE......

[Tk_3_Barman]

so your saying it is in service, has been used on calls,but you guys are just picking and chosing which ones you run it on? :confused:

Once again, waste of money. :mad:

And no engineman never got back to me about that little rebuttle we had. But don't let that stop you from reading firefighter forums though. We know you guys wanna be us so bad you will take any information you can however you can. Should have studied harder....you coulda been a firefighter too... :rolleyes:

~~~PEACE~~~

PS....your typing seems slower these days....to much Krispy cream crumbs in your keyboard? :D

[24/7 NOT 72]

so your saying it is in service, has been used on calls,but you guys are just picking and chosing which ones you run it on? :confused:

Once again, waste of money. :mad:

And no engineman never got back to me about that little rebuttle we had. But don't let that stop you from reading firefighter forums though. We know you guys wanna be us so bad you will take any information you can however you can. Should have studied harder....you coulda been a firefighter too... :rolleyes:

~~~PEACE~~~

PS....your typing seems slower these days....to much Krispy cream crumbs in your keyboard? :D

I will let you in on something that will really burn your ass. It's not a full time unit yet. :D And you keep saying the City. The City didn't pay for it. And just so that you understand , we run the truck on calls when we are requested by MPD Units.

As far as wanting to be like you no problem, I will stop by Dunkirk tonight and start riding with ya. :mad: ....And typing slower, I was trying to give you a pass since most of the post's you leave have screwed up info in them.

And should'nt you be sitting at the watchdesk reading over your probation book instead of writting on the watchdesk. ;)

PLEASE this time read my post's, print them, do what you have to do to remember what I have said, I passed the same ROCKET TEST that you took.

I just had other choices then 1. DCFD 2. Stay at Dunkirk for free 3. Continue to work for AAA Ambulance or 4. Wait to the WAhWAh opens and take over the night time gas-booth job.

I read the watchdesk because I think most of the stuff that is written is in good fun. Sometimes people write stuff thats not true ( MPD's ESU Truck and how it will be used ) and I respond to it. I don't respond to the fire stuff it would'nt be right. So take care and as always BE SAFE....... Keepin the DOUGHNUTS warm see ya......

[DrNapalm]

Heard a nice rumor today that the City Council is going to make the cops give up the truck AND they are going to let the fire department have the first bid on it. :D

[Odie23]

That would look sweet in DCFD colors.

Hey 24/7, If the city didn't pay for it, where did the funding come from? Just wondering if my federal tax dollars were footing the bill.

Thanks,
Odie

[Tk_3_Barman]

damn 24/7, your an uptight dude.

First off, I really don't care about the unit. Its just fun stirrin the pot with you. So as far as burnin my ass.......sorry.

second off, if your being requested by your own units, then why didn't they request you on the barricade?

Third off, thats a standing joke between fire/police as far back as anyone can tell you about so lighten up. Dunkirk.......lets see I can count on one hand how many times in the last 6 months I have been there, so in nice words ....get your running route straight.

Probie book......no more then you should be reading yours. I have been off probation for a few years now, thanks.


just had other choices then 1. DCFD 2. Stay at Dunkirk for free 3. Continue to work for AAA Ambulance or 4. Wait to the WAhWAh opens and take over the night time gas-booth job.


So after all those things did not pan out for you, you became a cop huh? Good choice.

So in closing, stay low, be safe, and there will always be warm coffee and doughnuts at the house for ya. :)

[QUITCRYIN]

Heard a nice rumor today that the City Council is going to make the cops give up the truck AND they are going to let the fire department have the first bid on it. :D


Well,,, :p Sorry that is a RUMOR and only a Rumor. I have first hand knowledge that will not happen. Besides what would the FD want with a police vehicle? Maybe one day your "so called leadership" will put ALL of thier minds together and get something so sweet. :rolleyes:
be safe always!

[24/7 NOT 72]

damn 24/7, your an uptight dude.

First off, I really don't care about the unit. Its just fun stirrin the pot with you. So as far as burnin my ass.......sorry.

second off, if your being requested by your own units, then why didn't they request you on the barricade?

Third off, thats a standing joke between fire/police as far back as anyone can tell you about so lighten up. Dunkirk.......lets see I can count on one hand how many times in the last 6 months I have been there, so in nice words ....get your running route straight.

Probie book......no more then you should be reading yours. I have been off probation for a few years now, thanks.


just had other choices then 1. DCFD 2. Stay at Dunkirk for free 3. Continue to work for AAA Ambulance or 4. Wait to the WAhWAh opens and take over the night time gas-booth job.


So after all those things did not pan out for you, you became a cop huh? Good choice.

So in closing, stay low, be safe, and there will always be warm coffee and doughnuts at the house for ya. :)

You must not have understood what I wrote. The choices for jobs were yours not mine. :o Dunkirk, Im sorry I thought you were a member. Maybe not the guy that has his DCFD uniform on for officer's pictures ( did he really have to wear that for the pictures ? I know he's proud of his job, and thats all he could find to wear ) but a member just the same.

As far as the truck goes why would you guys ever want anything that a bunch of COPS had built anyway. It's just a little old truck. For those of you wondering who paid for it ...... drum roll please........ Let's just say when DCFD had a chance to maybe ask to have the 4th Squad put back in service and get a new one, they decided to get a command bus,and I will leave it at that. I do think its funny that some of you feel that it's a waste of money. If that truck helps one person how is it a waste.

Im sure you would say that it's a waste because the Police have it. Besides when its all said and done we are not trying to " duplicate a service " as many of you are saying. You do your thing and we will do ours. Im sorry if I came off as being uptight, did'nt mean to. So here we are last page and the last post so LOO FOR LIFE you take care and BE SAFE continue to teach these young men how to be FIREMEN. Buckey I love you and NO I don't want to FIGHT YOU ( just a joke ) :D And Tk 3 Barman you take care too.

[Tk_3_Barman]

No problems man.

The person in the DCFD uniform is a medic for the city. I am on the members page, however I am in turnouts not a uniform. My choices of jobs was all mine, your right. I love my job as I am sure you love yours. This post was and is all in fun for the most part. Lets stop throwing rocks and maybe we can teach each other about why things are the way they are between departments.

~~~PEACE~~~

[DrNapalm]

Well,,, :p Sorry that is a RUMOR and only a Rumor. I have first hand knowledge that will not happen. Besides what would the FD want with a police vehicle? Maybe one day your "so called leadership" will put ALL of thier minds together and get something so sweet. :rolleyes:
be safe always!

Well rumor or not, council record or not, what the hell is the point of having such truck if it doesn't show up until an hour or two after the fact. On the metro crash the other day "truck 1" didn't show up until fire units were going in service and then it just turned around and drove off. It was also driver only, so again what the hell is the point of MPD having this truck? What equipment does this "sweet" truck carry anyways?

[? BUCKY IS HERE]

All of you need to quit crying. There is only one real Rescue Squad in the city RS-1. Which I help keep the best in the city. If you want to know how to rescue someone come talk to me. RS-1-3

[staticx]

Speaking of MPD, check out the picture on DCFD.Com of the cruiser parked in front of the hydrant, on the fire in 9's area. Great stuff.

[catseyes]

*sigh*

Aside from the fun of tweaking each other, MPD could have avoided all (or most) of the "shots fired" by getting something more functional (in terms of their use for it) and not quite so similar in appearance and equipment to a rescue squad.

BTW, got a tour of the Secret Service's bus the other day. No chance our squad guys would take that beast...it's an oversized ambulance with a Hurst tool stuck in the back...stretcher mount in the middle and everything. I hope they have the sense to call DC Fire for anybody they are supposed to be protecting who gets shot, though, since the individual who was trying to treat the patient on that call was even worse than the average DC paramedic.